July 24, 2004
BLOGON: Wrap-up / lobbycon
I'm sitting in the hotel lobby killing time until my cab gets here to take me to the airport so I can fly back to LA. Overall I had a great time at the conference. I met plenty of interesting people, got to see others who I hadn't seen in a while and met many people in person who previously I'd only known online. It's also great to see how much has happened in the past few months since I was around them last. This is a really exciting time for blogs and blogging and it's amazingly cool to talk to someone who has a great idea, see them start putting it in motion, and just a few months later see it actually working. It's incredibly inspiring. The people who were in the audience a year ago are the ones on the panels today.
Also, because this was a smaller conference, I think 300 people total, there was a higher percentage of people who are actually doing something which adds to the energy.
That said, I think a lot of the panels were aimed at people who maybe weren't as dialed in on all the subjects being discussed. To someone with limited knowledge on the world of blogs it was probably very interesting, and I saw a lot of guys in blue shirts and khakis nodding and taking notes, but as I just mentioned there was a large number of people who are involved so much of what was being talked about was old news. Perhaps it's a side effect of how fast we're getting info with blogs, something that was the big topic a week ago is forgotten today, what is interesting is what's happening right now and what might happen tomorrow. It's actually funny to pick up a newspaper and read something today that you read about on blogs a week ago. I've actually commented about it to Caryn before, saying "can you believe some people are just now finding out about this?" So maybe that taints my perspective on the panels, but I still throughly enjoyed myself.
I think the real value of these events is getting the right people together. Earlier this year at e-tech we were joking that there were two conferences going on, e-tech was upstairs and lobbycon was downstairs. Last night at dinner (some 50 or so people from the conference all piled into a restraint to argue about the bill) the same thing was discussed. We're talking about social software so naturally social discussion works better. There's been so much talk about the back channel, and how to merge the panels and the audience to create an active discussion, meanwhile the answer has always been right outside of the conference room. Merging all this into one fluid discussion is not something we need to figure out how to do, we're already doing it. We just need to recognize where this is happening and take advantage of it.
So I'm proposing this - let's actually do it and see what happens. We'll pick a hotel in some city with a big lobby with wifi access and a date, and that's it. No panels, no time limits, no structure, no sponsors trying to push their products. Just the people and the lobby. We'll publish the list of attendees as soon as they sign up and that will be the conference. A long weekend, or a few days during a week. I don't know if it will work, but if anyone thinks it's an interesting idea post here, or trackback and if enough people actually think it's worthwhile I'll see what I can do about setting it up.
Of course, I've had a frighteningly small amount of coffee this morning so it's entirely possible this idea is a crock.
UPDATE: There's now a LobbyCon Wiki.
Posted by sean on July 24, 2004 10:58 AM |
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I've wanted to this for while and have looked into what kinds of space are available.
I've got a few ideas on how we can pull this off. Drop me a note when you get back to LA or see me tonight at Spaceland... :)
Posted by:
Michael on July 24, 2004 11:15 AM
Why a hotel lobby? Why not a bowling alley or an aircraft hanger as long as there is Wi-Fi?
I think that an auditorium format might have value even if there is no conference agenda. Pick-up panel moderation, keynotes by popular IRC demand, and a projector for real-time hacking/demos would probably add value.
Check out http://www.stupidnet.com/ for a few lessons on grassroots conferencizing.
Posted by:
Scott Rafer on July 25, 2004 09:19 AM
Right on brother - but it HAS to be in San Francisco. We have the best reefer and sour dough bread.
Could you imagine what would happen if we had it in Lala - say at the Mondrian - we'd get too distracted!
Two suggestions: the Phoenix Motel or the Hyattt Embarcadero.....
Posted by:
Marc Canter on July 25, 2004 09:42 AM
Because a hotel is already doing things that you'd have to set up at an aircraft hanger, etc.. such as furnishings (comfy seating), food, drinks, power. I'm not so interested in actually setting up a grsssroots conference, as I am in what could come from next to no set up. How much of the regular conference-stuff is extra fat that can be trimmed. This isn't just tech events, music, art, all kinds of events like this that I've been to over the years, the *real* work is done during the downtime, the after parties, the dinner, not the actual event. So I'm just thinking outloud, what if there was no event, just a gathering?
Posted by:
Sean Bonner on July 25, 2004 09:44 AM
a meatspace back channel... i like it! was great seeing you again f2f sean... best... j.
Posted by:
judith on July 25, 2004 10:35 AM
Hi Sean. Judith Meskill pointed me to this post - and as i was reading it i thought its such a great concept. Its also something some of the Bloggers in Europe (Ton Zijlstra, Sebastian Fiedler, Lilia Efimova) are doing with their BlogWalk (not BlogTalk) series - check out their website here - http://blogwalk.mediapedagogy.com/AboutBlogWalk
Posted by:
Dina Mehta on July 25, 2004 10:40 AM
Great idea. San Francisco would be a great venue, but let me say that New Orleans wouldn't be bad. There are couple of hotels on the edge of Bourbon St. (e.g. Sheraton and Marriot) that have Wi-Fi in their lobby. And there are some good bars/music clugs that have Wi-Fi. I realize New Orleans is a haul for people from LA or NYC, but it's a city that a lot of people would enjoy visiting. Don't do it in the summer, though. Too damn hot.
Posted by:
Ernie the Attorney on July 25, 2004 12:05 PM
I just attended Blogwalk 3 in Vienna. It did have a little structure: 10 minutes at the start to state and clarify the Question of the Day; instructions on the use of the Post-It Wall (every time you heard a good idea or quote, write it down and stick it on the big whiteboard; rearrange postits to cluster related/contrasting posts); a long lunch involving a walk through town, returning to the meeting place in 2 hours; a 30 minute wrap-up session highlighting some of the themes and key answers to the day's question. The rest was all conversation.
This scales from 12 to maybe 30 people. After that you get too much duplication of conversation and should probably split up into two separate groups.
The art seemed to be inviting a perfect mix of people.
(Hi, Dina!)
Posted by:
Phil Wolff on July 25, 2004 01:04 PM
Can we move these comments and discussion to the wiki? I hate comment systems for this exact reason. Especially now that this thread is starting to spread via RSS. Marc picked up this thread and now its going to spread like wildfire.
LobbyCon is meant to be more of a "working" session. eTech was the best example of how it worked. I actually looked forward to the end of a session just so that I could get back to the lobby and hang with everyone.... even though my demo crapped out on me.
The other suggestion that has been made that I like is that we coordinate with other remote LobbyCon's. The might get a little unwieldy at first but I'd like to see how far we could seriously push the envelope.
Posted by:
Jerry Schuman on July 26, 2004 11:30 AM
I really like the idea of LobbyCon, but for some reason having it at a college works for me!
Lots of classroom space, lots of hallways, common areas, and perhaps parking! Kids should be invited. I thought what was real intersting about the breakout sessions the afternoon of Blogon was that it almost reminded me of teach ins! I think that it requires specail people to moderate them, but that said, there was a great free flow of information.
Buzz
Posted by:
Buzz Bruggeman on August 5, 2004 07:37 AM
Lobbycon is a great idea. SEO's have been doing similiar for quite a while...known as "pubcon". It will work...be the guy to make it work in your space;)
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Stuntdubl on October 14, 2004 03:37 PM
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