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October 01, 2005
anatomy of a rip off
Earlier today I got an e-mail which said: "I've been blogging for Seattle CityScene, but I'm dismayed to find that it's basically a cut rate knockoff of Metblogs..."
Domain name: citysceneblog.com With an e-mail like "sellitcheapnow@yahoo.com" I didn't think that was going to get me anywhere. What about Internetbiz? That address is a mail box at a mini mall and is clearly a deadend as well. I sent it to a few people and Andre from Montreal made a pretty good point when he said: "I don't think that this is real and might be some form of viral marketing. Check out the names of the authors, there is nothing in there which suggest that they are real people at all. In fact, their names seem to have been chosen by a marketing grad who was trying to make them seem cool." The more I looked the more I agreed and I seriously doubt there's many live people contributing to these sites (see update 4 below). So... the next lead was the footer on the sites which reads: "All Rights Reserved © 2005 CitySceneBlog.com | Made by kpone-design.com" Kpone Design is "a Romanian based IT company poised to meet your information technology needs." Well, that sounds interesting, I wonder what kind of sites they have worked on? www.eternalspiritministries.com www.stephenharveyphotography.com www.online-college-degree-now.com www.deadfordays.com www.mytownproperties.com www.freegamesaddict.com www.pokerboon.com www.texas-holdem-zone.com www.online-texas-holdem-poker.us Clearly a stand up organization. So I decided to give Tim Gilberg at Internetbiz a call and see if he had any further info but that number just rings and rings and then disconnects. No answer, no answering machine, no voicemail, just ring, ring, ring disconnect. This looks more legit with every turn doesn't it? And then I saw a link to "authors website" from a post in Denver, which took me to Nicole J. LeBoeuf. She looks like a real person who probably much like the person who e-mailed me first got wrapped up in this scam. And I say it's a scam because I was just forwarded all the e-mail correspondence between the writer and his contact at the site - seattlewriters@yahoo.com - ( which actually ripps off full sentences word for word from e-mails we use with our own authors) and guess who signed the e-mails? Tim. These all stemmed from a Craigslist posting looking for writers for city blogs. I've actually seen those posts and thought it was pretty bad they were ripping off the idea, but the fact that they couldn't even be bothered to Anyone have any ideas? UPDATE: Tim Gilberg seems to be wrapped up in UPDATE 2: from the comments - looks like he's got a history of fishing for links. And to clairify this, I mean he's using someone's forum for nothing but self promotion which is pretty lame. UPDATE 3: I'm getting numerous e-mails from people who have been writing for these CityScene sites, all of which I will be responding to soon, but the most disturbing trend I'm seeing is that several of them are claiming Tim told them that many bloggers are making over $100K a year and that he knows the secret of how this is done and that if they post to his sites a lot he'll be paying them in 2-3 months. This is so shadey it's not even amusing anymore. UPDATE 4: I've now heard from a handful of different contributors to the site, the solid majority of which are disappointed in the entire situation and have ceased contributing to CityScenBlog. What this means is that there's more real people behind the posts than I initially suspected but that those people are more on the level than I'd suspected as well. Unless I hear from "Charles", someone listed as a contributor on all his sites, I'm still under the assumption this is a fake name being used by Tim, who I still haven't heard a peep out of. UPDATE 5: Tim finally responds in the comments, sort of. This discussion is continuing in this post. Posted by sean on October 1, 2005 12:00 PM | View blog reactions
Previous Entry: 38 things Next Entry: links for 2005-10-03 Hi Sean, I'm the Nicole whose blog you link to, and last time I checked I'm a real person, so that much is OK. Thanks for your post about CityScene; a fellow AbsoluteWrite.com forum member alerted me to it. I have to say I'm troubled by the info you bring to light. Wanted also to reassure you that I'm nowhere near as entangled as you might think--I'm not paying them, they're not paying me, I've only posted one piece thus far, and there's no rights grab on my writing going on. So if what for me is just a fun place to spout about where I live turns out to be as shady an operation as you suspect, walking away is pretty easy. Posted by: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little on October 1, 2005 03:36 PM
looks like the Cardiff location is him hunt him down Sean. http://www.bloggerforum.com/userinfo.php?uid=3227 Posted by: 4040 on October 1, 2005 05:01 PM
I'm the Jeff from Boston Metblogs. This guy sent me an email about writing for the "Upcoming Boston Cityscene" website claiming, get this, "There are many individual Bloggers earning over $100k If that doesn't sound like a scam, I don't know what does. The text of the email sounded like it was ripped from the script of a 3:00 a.m. infomercial for an at-home real estate business. I'm glad I'm sticking with the real deal. Posted by: Jeff on October 1, 2005 05:43 PM
If you use Google maps and satellite view for the guys address, you'll see its a parking lot. With a beach view. Posted by: Unsomnambulist on October 1, 2005 06:20 PM
Sean - at least one of the posts on the San Diego "blog" is largely plagarized from the City website, so I wouldn't assume good things about this.
I'm not saying you're wring, at all - I'd just be careful about what claims you're making for your own legal protection. Posted by: Greg Burton on October 1, 2005 07:43 PM
The link-fishing link Sean posts looks relatively mild--mostly like the owner of a new website trying, clumsily, to generate traffic. The tone of the emails we've exchanged, as well as the unprofessional, earnest appearance of the blogging tutorials he sends new authors to visit, conveys the same feel. If this is a scam, it's the most well-intentioned one I've seen. And the least slick. Not to say that there isn't anything wrong with what's going on; copping another website's look-and-feel isn't a good thing, and Tim's yahoo address does raise an eyebrow. But I've encountered conmen before, and this outfit doesn't smell like conmen. It just smells... clumsy, to me. If you'll pardon the metaphor. (Sean, you've got mail. Well, one more piece than usual. Via Metroblogger.) Posted by: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little on October 1, 2005 08:01 PM
Nicole - got your e-mail and will get back to you soon. If there's any truth to the promises of making $100K from blogging that several of the other CityScene authors are claiming this guy is so low it's disgusting. As if the fake phone numbers, addresses, anonymouse e-mails and other slimey business stuff wasn't enough. Of course if this is all being taken the wrong way all this guy need to do is publically explain himself, and stop trying to fool people into thinking they are reading our sites by coming up with his own layout. Posted by: sean bonner on October 1, 2005 10:56 PM
If these guys are scam artists, that's one thing. They certainly seem a bit shady. But, you know, I just don't have a problem with someone designing a site close your look and feel (or mine, or anyone's). Seems pretty clear that no code or images were stolen. "Trade dress" claims when it comes to publications are pretty thin, and hopefully that'll apply to the web. Is there really any confusion here? The URL is right in the address bar and they're quite different. Consider that most newspapers look pretty much like most other newspapers, and when style innovations come about they tend to spread fast. In the software field, didn't Lotus vs. Borland and Apple vs. Microsoft in the 90's pretty much settle that issue? The last thing we want is Google suing everybody with a minimalist design or a centered search box. No question - in this particular case, the similar site design might be... impolite behavior. Maybe even outrageously impolite behavior. If they're scam artists, good luck bringing them down. But I wouldn't hang 'em on look-and-feel alone. Posted by: Pete on October 1, 2005 11:06 PM
Sean--thanks! Glad to hear my email shone through the piles of spam. Apparently CityScene's deal is, they start paying in 3 to 4 months, but only to their "featured" authors (chosen, it is implied, by the quality and frequency of their writing). That's two uncertainties too many if one actually wants money, but at least one can understand the logic behind the claim. I wonder if enough traffic to command enough advertising revenue to make the authors $100/yr can seriously be expected in 3 to 4 months, though. Posted by: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little on October 1, 2005 11:44 PM
Tim Gilberg's email address is Posted by: jason aka ? on October 2, 2005 12:32 AM
Hi! Maybe you didn't notice, but if you read "kpone designs" not like in english(kay-pone) but like an italian it sounds like capone, pretty much "Al Capone". does it ring any bell? Posted by: Oliver on October 2, 2005 05:18 AM
Those Texas-holdem people forced me to enable spam-protection on my blog, they're fierce and have lots of IPs! Hrr. Anyhow, Tim's most recent address is Address Updated: 5/1/2003 the others you found were explictly listed by my service as previous residences. And his tele might be 633-1221 (I dunno the area code). Posted by: GriffJon on October 2, 2005 06:54 AM
Thanks for the sleuthing, Sean. I thought these guys seemed a little odd when i started writing for them, but I had no idea how odd. Posted by: TonyD on October 2, 2005 09:20 AM
Why aren't I making 100K blogging for you, huh? Huh? Sean? Huh? Posted by: Benkay on October 2, 2005 09:56 AM
The look and feel of a website does, in fact, carry a copyright. You could, I think, sue based on the copy of this design. Would you? Probably not because slime who do this kind of thing usually go away in a couple of days/weeks/months because they are so untalented to being with. Calling out people like this and showing exactly how lame they are is the best strategy and I applaud Sean for doing it. In order to get anywhere in business you need to have a solid reputation. In this case with bloggers, advertisers, and partners. Now any time any advertiser or blogger does a search for this guys name or company this thread will come up. If you're a talented blogger or a significant advertiser you're not going to touch a site with this kind of reputation. So, if you're considering blogging with this slime bucket and you think his $100,000 claims are true keep in mind that his actions have precluded him from having any kind of advertising base. If this guy is such an idiot to make a fool out of himself like this you really shouldn't--as a blogger--associate yourself with him. If you wanted to get paid to blog you would be best to stick with someone with class like Sean. best j Posted by: Jason on October 2, 2005 10:51 AM
Please let us know if you do get emails back from Tim. I would like to hear what he has to say about this. I'll be emailing him myself in hopes of getting a reply. What worries me now is the potential to draw absolutist lines in the sand: "Either you don't touch CityScene with a ten foot pole, or you're a disreputable blogger and we want nothing to do with you!" There's no place in that context for rational discussion. Do you really think some sort of attempt at cybersquatting is going on? I mean, the look-and-feel issue is pretty damning, agreed, and I would hope this attention would pressure him into doing a redesign; but do you really think he's hoping to *fool* visitors as to which web site they're actually viewing? Posted by: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little on October 2, 2005 02:07 PM
Nicole - like it or not the people you associate with say a lot about you, and if half of what is being speculated about Tim is true he's not anyone I'd want to align myself with. While there's pros and cons to that for sure, the fact is if this guy is a scammer, anyone who works with him will be considered the same. Of course Tim could help his image greatly by answering some of these questions. Do I really think he's trying to fool people? Yes I do or I wouldn't have suggested it. Can you think of any other reason that he would have copied what we are doing so closely, from the header images and page layout all the way down to the domain structure ( city.domain.com )? It's very clearly to try and use something we've built so that when people come to his sites they feel like they've been there before, and that it's part of something they already know and trust. Which it isn't. We've worked very hard to build metblogs and Tim is clearly using our reputation to try and further his own thing. Posted by: sean bonner on October 2, 2005 02:55 PM
Selling Tahitian Noni Offshore Viagra Investment videos is a much faster way to make $100K at home in your jammies. I oughta know. Posted by: Xeni Jardin on October 2, 2005 03:06 PM
And his tele might be 633-1221 (I dunno the area code). It's probably 760. San Diego also has the area codes 858 and 619. Posted by: Kyle on October 2, 2005 06:12 PM
Hey there, I'm Bond--indeed a real person (last time I checked). You may not believe it...but I am. If this Tim guy is as shady as you think, I can't imagine him going out of his way to invent a conspicuous name such as mine. Plus, the site (so far) simply doesn't speak to that sort of creative level. Anywho, similar to Nicole, I was just posting some blogs for fun--a chance to get some ideas out there, connect with people, etc. I had no hopes or interest in a financial exchange (especially for something as casual as this). Are there any safe places left?? :) Bond Posted by: Bond on October 2, 2005 10:51 PM
Hey Bond - it's refreshing to know that in fact there are real people behind those posts. I honestly don't know what is in it for this guy and since he's not commenting or responding I don't know that we ever will. What I do know is that given the nature of blogs like these and the google rankings they achive, there are many unsavory things that someone could due with them, such as use them to generate traffic to other sites and boost those ranks as well. The simple fact that he stole our idea, and our image should cast a pretty solid question on all his other actions if you ask me. Posted by: sean bonner on October 2, 2005 10:59 PM
Just adding to the list of real people - have we determined if anyone was actually a fake? I'll keep checking this page to see how things turn out, but like Bond I'm not sure if this actually affects writers in a negative way. I suppose we could be exploited for ad revenue by this fellow Tim, but I'll withhold judgment on the matter until more is brought to light. Posted by: Desmond on October 3, 2005 12:14 AM
The guy has stolen an idea and a look, and he's trying to get people to add content - for free - to give the site legitimacy. After he builds up traffic, he'll solicit advertisers, and possibly make a few thousand bucks... largely off of others efforts (Sean's for the concept and layout, and the writers who spent hours on their posts). Posted by: Unsomnambulist on October 3, 2005 12:19 AM
Sean, I just started writing for Boston CityScene and am also a bit dismayed to hear your accusations and read some of your proof. I'm going to keep writing for it, but I'll be much more wary of the business situation. I too was in favor of making $100K or so, but I don't know if that will materialize. If you'd rather read my posts in a more friendly, personal arena, visit my own blog at http://www.jeffcutler.com/jblog. Keep me updated. Jeff Posted by: Jeff Cutler on October 3, 2005 05:59 AM
Greetings Sean, Thanks for putting in a trackback on my first entry at CityScene. Like Bond, I had no expectations of money, but I thought it would be nice to get my name out there while I work on more lucrative writing projects. I had no knowledge of the rip off, though I can curious what legal issues this presents. If Nicole is right, and the code is different enough, are there any legal issues (despite the ethical ones)?
Anything else we duped bloggers should know? Be well. --Raven Posted by: Raven on October 3, 2005 08:12 AM
They're pretty similar, but so what? Does this really take anything from you? I like the fact that you can always view source in a website and piece together things or gather ideas from other developers. If knowledge is power, then bandwidth is God. I would take it as a compliment if I were you. Posted by: tendo on October 3, 2005 08:49 AM
Hi Sean, Just another actual flesh 'n blood person, and a Craig's List writing recruit, checking in from Seattle. I too will monitor your site to see what develops - or not. I'm new to blogging and its protocols, so whatever this turns out to be, it'll be an education for me. I'm not even sure what a Trackback is, approved or otherwise. And why did it come from an email address "finalfantasy@gmail.com"? Oh - I wasn't really in it for the $100k - my long range financial plan is much more stable - Lotto tickets. ~Loren Posted by: Loren on October 3, 2005 08:59 AM
Good Morning Sean, It seems after each successive update to your Blog post, each of your allegations have been proven false. I have taken a screen shot from your Blog post and have submitted it to my attorney for review. I sell a self produced DVD on Ebay training, that is a scam??? Shady Enterprise?? Do you have more than one business venture?
It was never stated I would show them the "secret" to making over $100k Blogging? It was stated there are Bloggers earning over $100k per year. This is a ground floor opportunity. No guarantees of payment of any kind were ever made. Charles is my partner who administers the movable type installation, what is the conspiracy behind that?
Defamation of Character is very serious You shall hear more from me on this Tim Gilberg Posted by: Tim Gilberg on October 3, 2005 09:57 AM
A classic frightened rabbit debate style, Tim.
Posted by: SB on October 3, 2005 10:17 AM
Tim - Thank you so very much for finally joining this conversation. However, I'm disappointed that you didn't have the guts to answer a single one of my questions. Just so we're painfully clear, here they are: 1. Why do you think it's a good idea to steal my idea? 2. Why do you think it's a good idea to rip off my site design (which is trademarked)? 3. Did you think you could really get away with it? 4. Do you think this is a way to get any respect at all? And as a bonus - why do I have an inbox full of e-mails from people you've talked to claiming that you are in fact claiming that by writing for your sites they could be able to make $100K? I'm fairly certain those are the serious questions at hand. You are upset I called selling auction tips shady? Do a Google Search for "ebay+scam" and it's quite clear that this isn't an unpopular opinion. And it's really funny that you are upset that I'm correcting mistakes as I go. You see, there's no info on your sites about anything, so at first I had to guess, then as I dug deeper I found out more and corrected those errors. That's what we bloggers do. We don't rewrite history, we correct our mistakes and move on trying not to make the same ones in the future. Something you should consider. You have the option to do the right thing here, why don't you admit your mistake and try to correct it? Posted by: sean bonner on October 3, 2005 10:20 AM
Hey Tim -- you shan't hear more from me, thanks. Almost fell for your Craigslist post 'til I spotted this. Find some other sucker in NE Ohio, would you? At least we know that Sean and the people he associates with are legit... Posted by: Shannon on October 3, 2005 10:37 AM
Oh wow! Nice bit of sleuthing everyone. Sorry you have to deal with trolls like this Sean. Posted by: digit (houston metblog) on October 3, 2005 11:35 AM
Nothing here would likely support a viable defamation claim. So I'd ditch the scary words and try engaging in a real conversation. That CityScene stuff is a blatant rip - fine if you want to have some civic-blogging in a few cities, but at least come up with something original. It works a lot better. Posted by: cd on October 3, 2005 12:05 PM
His first response to being called a scammer? Threaten a lawsuit. Posted by: Unsomnambulist on October 3, 2005 12:56 PM
Sean Bonner Quote "You see, there's no info on your sites about anything, so at first I had to guess," There a hundreds of City Blogs on the net your is not the first, Your delusions of Grandeur that your are the innovator of Blogs pertaining to a certain subject be it cities, technology etc is fascinating. If you check the webby awards for top Blog Designs almost all are in 3-column format similar to citysceneblog.com. Using a set of pictures at the top of a blog in a banner format is in use by thousands of websites and Blogs. Are you telling me you and your design team came up with that style and it is copyrighted. Here is one of the top Blogs on the net Sean, in your post you seem to be pleased that my name in now near the top of Google with regards to your article. This is my final post to you, my attorney will be in contact with you Posted by: Tim Gilberg on October 3, 2005 01:43 PM
Sean Bonner Quote "You see, there's no info on your sites about anything, so at first I had to guess," There a hundreds of City Blogs on the net your is not the first, Your delusions of Grandeur that your are the innovator of Blogs pertaining to a certain subject be it cities, technology etc is fascinating. If you check the webby awards for top Blog Designs almost all are in 3-column format similar to citysceneblog.com. Using a set of pictures at the top of a blog in a banner format is in use by thousands of websites and Blogs. Are you telling me you and your design team came up with that style and it is copyrighted. Here is one of the top Blogs on the net Sean, in your post you seem to be pleased that my name in now near the top of Google with regards to your article. This is my final post to you, my attorney will be in contact with you Posted by: Tim Gilberg on October 3, 2005 01:43 PM
This is Tim, Sean is trying to block my responses Sean Bonner Quote "You see, there's no info on your sites about anything, so at first I had to guess," There a hundreds of City Blogs on the net your is not the first, Your delusions of Grandeur that your are the innovator of Blogs pertaining to a certain subject be it cities, technology etc is fascinating. If you check the webby awards for top Blog Designs almost all are in 3-column format similar to citysceneblog.com. Using a set of pictures at the top of a blog in a banner format is in use by thousands of websites and Blogs. Are you telling me you and your design team came up with that style and it is copyrighted. Here is one of the top Blogs on the net Sean, in your post you seem to be pleased that my name in now near the top of Google with regards to your article. This is my final post to you, my attorney will be in contact with you Posted by: Charles on October 3, 2005 01:45 PM
To Tim: After looking through both sites, I'd have to say a heavy amount of "inspiration" was derived from Metroblogging. Just my opinion on the matter. I've had experience with scammers over the internet and it seems to be quite common for them to drop "My lawyer will be looking at this" as soon as anything is said about them. Not saying you're a scammer (though I have my opinions) but you sure as heck talk like one. It's not defamatory at all to say that there's no response at the phone number you listed. It's also not defamatory to say that he is being told by several people that they feel they are being scammed, if this is indeed the case. Your problem with him retracting his statements and correcting his errors when he finds them is absurd. What else do you want him to do? Leave them in? This would be far more harmful to you, so I should think you'd find it beneficial to see him correcting mistakes. Posted by: David on October 3, 2005 02:35 PM
Hello all, Posted by: Phoenix on October 3, 2005 02:56 PM
I'm trying to understand this posting by you. The thing I don't get is what kind of scam could this be? The guy isn't charging anything. He isn't selling anything. He did represent himself as Tim. The writers are all legit sounding. The Web site actually has useful postings. The 100K claim seems irrelevant or merely hyperbole rather than an attempt to get money. It looks more like an attempt to get people to write for the site. So, what is it you are trying to achieve and/or actually tell us? Posted by: Bob Q on October 3, 2005 03:41 PM
Thanks for the comment Tim, and the fact that you posted it in triplicate really shows you care. My response is here: http://www.seanbonner.com/blog/archives/002025.php Posted by: sean bonner on October 3, 2005 03:50 PM
My goal is for him to stop stealing my design. If he wants to be my competition and run a city blog network that is all well and good, but he needs to not do it using my design elements. Right now it's far too easy for someone to end up on his sites and think they are mine. I want him to change his design to something not inspired by mine, that's all I wanted from the beginning. Posted by: sean bonner on October 3, 2005 03:55 PM
Tim said: "If you check the webby awards for top Blog Designs almost all are in 3-column format similar to citysceneblog.com... Using a set of pictures at the top of a blog in a banner format is in use by thousands of websites and Blogs... Are you telling me you and your design team came up with that style and it is copyrighted." Check out the following LA city blogs, and besides being blogs and webpages, each has a unique look: www.laist.com Now compare www.blogging.la with www.seattle.citysceneblog.com If anyone doesn't think this is a ripoff is an idiot. Considering its inevitable that Tim will try to place ads there, to say this is harmless is offensive, if not irrelevent. And that Tim doesn't see anything wrong with this speaks volumes about his character. Posted by: Unsomnambulist on October 3, 2005 04:37 PM
I have been writing for the seattlecityscene blog as a reason to write about a city that I love, and to share a little about the places I enjoy here, and to have a creative outlet for my writing - not to make money..I am troubled however by the resemblance to your site - It is terribly similar. Yikes. I will stop writing and post to my own journal. Posted by: Mercedes on October 3, 2005 04:52 PM
Hi again Sean, Just to clarify my previous on-the-fence position: It was the "if" in "if he is, in fact, a scammer" that gave me pause. I wasn't prepared to cut and run because of accusations; I needed more proof. And while I know you're a stand-up person with a good reputation, I also know that in an argument between direct competitors there is no unbiased party. So I was reserving judgement. (Like the other CityScene bloggers you've heard from, I was posting at Denver CityScene because it was fun; I had no expectation of money.) Today, I am still not convinced that Tim has perpetrated a scam. I'm still not convinced that his appropriation of your look-and-feel was to fool visitors; it is more often the case that the new guy sees something proven to work and copies it because he thinks it'll work for him. I'm not convinced that CityScene is itself shady. HOWEVER, since Tim has begun responding to you in public, I *AM* convinced that he is not an individual I want to be associated with. His tone, his attitude, the quickness with which he jumps to threats--these don't bode well. Tim Gilberg, if you are reading this, you've burned your bridges. I have pulled my blog posts from your site; you no longer have permission to publish them. I will be reposting them elsewhere. Posted by: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little on October 3, 2005 05:34 PM
(Oh, and the fact that Tim is unrepentant about copping Metroblogger's look-and-feel DOESN'T thrill me, just in case there was any doubt. My on-the-fenceness about Tim had a lot to do with hoping he'd apologize and show willing by a full or partial redesign.) Posted by: Nicole J. LeBoeuf-Little on October 3, 2005 05:37 PM
Hey Sean, what's the big deal? your sites suck so who cares Posted by: mikeF on October 3, 2005 11:25 PM
God.. Sean are you a kid ? i am really impressed about all this. "1. Why do you think it's a good idea to steal my idea?" Wth! in what world are you living ? Ideas are free to use unless the idea is converted in a technology, then you can patent it, otherwise.. again in what world are you living ? I really dont see the scam saying that are bloggers making money, i had websites in the past and i remember when i joined adverting networks something like some of our members are making xx,xxx.xx$$ per month and that dont meant that the network is scammer, i have worked with some and of course i didnt make that much, but of course that depend on my work, traffic, etc. They payed me for what i did, then, what are you doing ? saying scammer to someone because of getting competition ? To Tim, Sean problems are : 1. look and feel, i saw its similar but not equal, also I saw that header on a travel company, I will try to remember the name to post it here. Sean, do you have trademark on the desing as you stated ? then is so simple, just show it to the violator and ask for and inmediate change, dont need to do a drama for something so simple. 2. If you will be doing business is a must that you need a valid address and a valid telephone number, at least on your website, i got recommendations to use anonymous info on domain registration to avoid spammers, i prefer protectfly from registerfly (this is not adverting in any way) 3. Hope you are legit, i am defending you because all of this is pretty ridiculous. 4. If you are not, prepare because i will be your nail in the shoe. Posted by: Richard on October 4, 2005 12:01 AM
Sorry, but this is a joke ? dont understand why losing time on jealous things .. For this kind of stuff if you have right are easy to solve and dont need this advertising that really arent serious. I see both are using movable type (free), you are not the owner of the technology and blogging about an specific theme (or any)is a freedom. If he use your template (that arent a big BIG artistic design), but if its yours and have the rights for it, then can demand the change, but the other things are just bull%&/ .. sorry Joseph J Reagan Posted by: Joseph on October 4, 2005 12:32 AM
Thanks for the heads up and the trackback to my entry on the Houston "blog". I was getting a hinky feeling about the whole thing and now I'm glad I used an email addy that it's my "main" one. Anyway, thanks for the ping. Posted by: Meredith on October 7, 2005 08:11 AM
"This is a single entry on a blog written by me, Sean Bonner. Please feel free to look around or even join in whatever conversation might be going on. Or don't. See if I care." EXACTLY! "See if I care." This looks like a way to get people to your blog. Posted by: Kym Krutz on October 7, 2005 10:07 AM
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