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[tags: etech etech2006 ]

**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 6 19:46:14 2006

19:46:14 *** You are now talking on #etech
19:46:14 --- Topic for #etech is Happy Happy Joy Joy @ ETech
19:46:14 --- Topic for #etech set by dotBen at Mon Mar 6 19:39:17
19:46:18 [neb__] not as hi-rez
19:46:23 [dotBen] esp as there were pretty young normal things who had nothing to do with internet, geekism or (heaven to bid) web2.0
19:47:22 [dotBen] I'm generaly not the person next to me, no
19:47:28 [holgate] that's not possible.
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19:48:22 [jibot] todbot is not a bot and Tod E. Kurt, at http://todbot.com/ . Once a Yahoo (via GoTo.com), now a space probe nerd.
19:48:28 [KevinMarks] etech has sold out
19:48:32 [KevinMarks] you heard it from Rael
19:48:34 [rohit__] sold out is good. Very good!
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19:48:56 [dotBen] oooooh
19:49:04 * dotBen loves announcements
19:49:43 [KevinMarks] dork matter?
19:49:43 [cspurgeon] heh
19:49:48 [twra2] dorn matter?
19:50:07 [gnat] clay shirky looks like a bald hitler
19:50:09 [twra2] ok, that odesn't work so well.
19:50:33 [gnat] web sturm and drang
19:50:34 [todbot] dork matter
19:50:34 [dotBen] don't matter?
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19:50:54 [KevinMarks] he skipped 2003
19:50:54 [holgate] dorn is breaking.
19:51:09 [KevinMarks] scary robot woman
19:51:29 [seanbonner] 2003 was not worth mentioning
19:51:29 [gnat] scary robot women working for the military
19:51:30 [holgate] that was 2004.
19:51:36 * alice_ twangs holgate
19:51:39 [dotBen] any announcements then about which company Yahoo! has bought this year? Not wanting to buck the trend or anything?
19:51:56 [todbot] Yahoo buys Web 2.0 this year
19:52:10 [oren] renames it web 3.0
19:52:18 [gnat] wow, that slide's a testament to the fact that iCal is not good for managing conference schedules.
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19:52:30 * holgate renames it web 3.11 for workgroups.
19:52:43 * twra2 renames it Web! Three! Dot! Oh!
19:52:58 [todbot] Oh! Oh!
19:53:01 [oren] web '06
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19:53:16 [dotBen] rockking back and forth with their blackberrys? PDA porn has arrived?
19:53:17 [neb__] web 3 bang oh
19:53:22 [twra2] Cascading Web 3.0 Enterprise edition?
19:53:43 [gnat] you've never noticed that when you use a blackberry or treo, you tend to sway gently?
19:53:54 [neb__] 3!0
19:54:05 [oren] davening
19:54:05 [dotBen] gnat: sadly not. Although I don't own one :(
19:54:10 [holgate] last year's .ics file was a sure way to bring everyone's apple-tops to a grinding halt.
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19:54:16 [gnat] good move
19:54:18 [crschmidt] hey, a gnat
19:54:31 * crschmidt waves in his general direction
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19:54:53 [dotBen] virtualCory++
19:55:02 [holgate] sway, sway with your PDA.
19:55:25 * dotBen is swaying heavily with his notebook.
19:55:32 [tengi] only 11 new messages? slacker....
19:55:41 [KevinMarks] people with cellphones walk differently
19:55:45 [seanbonner] gnat's on the slide
19:55:50 [dotBen] 'ray!
19:55:54 [bkdelong] crschmidt: Thought you didn't care about etech. ;P
19:56:14 [crschmidt] bkdelong: When I had a steady job, I had less reason to care
19:56:30 [crschmidt] Since I won't have a job in 3 weeks, connections have suddenly become slightly more important
19:56:33 [dotBen] My preferred quote from the 'Rings is "My Precious!"
19:57:10 [bkdelong] crschmidt: Goootcha.
19:57:15 [dotBen] but it doesn't fit into geek conferences
19:58:20 [neb__] "you've probably heard a little about AJAX"
19:58:28 [twra2] ah, the understatement economy
19:58:28 [neb__] ahahahahaha
19:58:33 [cheesebikini] ouch.. backhand to yahoo
19:58:49 [dotBen] What is this AJAX you speak of?
19:58:56 [dotBen] Bathroom cleaner?
19:59:10 [seanbonner] it's a bald guy with an earring
19:59:18 [neb__] a Dutch sports team
19:59:18 [cspurgeon] you can clean bathrooms?
19:59:22 [tengi] that's Mr. Clean...
19:59:35 [dotBen] yeah Bathrooms2.0
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19:59:53 [KevinFink] Cleaning bathrooms comes with Wife 1.0
20:00:06 [bkdelong] Not touching that one.
20:00:23 [holgate] BogBrush.com
20:00:42 [oren] what is this TV they speak of?
20:01:00 [KevinMarks] Eddie Izzard, he's TV
20:01:04 [seanbonner] TVs are illegal in nebraska
20:01:18 [neb__] info appliance from the Fractional Age
20:01:20 [oren] i knew there was something i liked about that state
20:01:24 [KevinFink] If TVs become usable again, where will we put our fish?
20:01:30 [dotBen] It's ironic this talk is about attention...
20:01:40 [todbot] what? he was talking?
20:02:00 [dotBen] oooh a party!
20:02:04 [todbot] booze
20:02:18 [oren] booze is good
20:02:35 [KevinMarks] badges badges badges badges mushroom mushroom
20:02:37 [cheesebikini] booze is my copilot
20:02:37 [holgate] booze 2.0
20:02:43 [todbot] is that a mustache?
20:02:48 [jsn-home] scruff
20:02:49 [dotBen] badge checking: yeah cos we all know how much the "Women of the Salvation Army" want to get in and find out about the Attention Ecconomy
20:02:59 [todbot] and no glasses
20:03:00 [neb__] he has a frontRow iMac remote
20:03:04 [cheesebikini] hey thats a stunt double
20:03:05 [gnat] hah, every time a flashlight goes off, my mac display gets more bright and then dims again
20:03:07 [holgate] badges? we don't need no steenking badges!
20:03:11 [neb__] or is that a pointer?
20:03:18 [rgiles] http://presencelabs.com/w2ww/
20:03:23 [cheesebikini] dotBen: also the assoc. of toxicologists are in town
20:03:35 [dotBen] If he says "small pieces loosly joined" I'm going to stand up and leave
20:03:40 [cheesebikini] is there a toxicologist in the house?
20:03:48 [alice_] bet you don't :)
20:03:58 [rich_gibson] voyeur...
20:03:59 [dotBen] I heard it was the assoc of intoxicated'ologists. Better not let them into the party
20:04:00 [gnat] small pieces of ass, loosely joined.
20:04:02 [neb__] SOT, Society of Toxicology!
20:04:11 [seanbonner] Is he calling us geeks?
20:04:15 [KevinMarks] you'd think they'd be in beta by now
20:04:35 [cheesebikini] yay black-n-white ctrl-alt-apple-8
20:04:40 [todbot] beta pro gold plus geeks
20:05:00 [KevinMarks] categorize your geeks into alpha, beta, final candidate, or golden master
20:05:07 [dotBen] sadly not ESP yet :(
20:05:27 [dotBen] waiting for Safari: the Matrix-style brain dump
20:05:41 [KevinMarks] getting wood to execute 6502 code was a real trick
20:05:49 [neb__] that's not technology?
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20:05:58 [seanbonner] Woodshop 2.0
20:06:00 [dotBen] everything is technology.
20:06:39 [twra2] OK, I do *not* like the phrase "homebrew harness"
20:06:43 * dotBen doesn't want to know what Tim O'R's "home-brew" harness looks like
20:06:48 [holgate] for ponygirls?
20:07:24 [KevinMarks] i think my power supply has died
20:07:35 [dotBen] disrutptive influences are good. Like on backchannels
20:07:53 [seanbonner] time to try Power Supply 2.0
20:07:58 [rich_gibson] dotBed+
20:08:14 [dotBen] ta
20:08:17 [blosx] "we like big companies only as sponsors" ;)
20:08:28 [dotBen] What happens if O'Reilly becomes a "big company"?
20:08:36 [hober] becomes?
20:08:36 [KevinMarks] well, this conf is about big companies funding a party for us
20:08:37 [KevinFink] bottom up vs. bottoms' up - the two social drivers of choice
20:08:39 [dotBen] does it make itself irellevent
20:08:41 [seanbonner] yeah, *if*
20:08:43 [blosx] it becomes a platinum sponsor of itself
20:09:28 [seanbonner] O'Reilly's ETech sponsored by O'Reilly with special thanks to O'Reilly
20:09:58 [hober] That's like Chuck Norris as Chuck Norris in Chuck Norris' Karate Commandos
20:10:04 [cspurgeon] .
20:10:06 [seanbonner] he said Paradime
20:10:12 [seanbonner] said it again
20:10:23 [dotBen] like I said, if that loosly joined phrase is muttered...
20:10:28 [holgate] Brother, can you spare a paradigm?
20:10:53 [tengi] paradigm?
20:10:57 * twbray is having a cynicism attack
20:10:59 [KevinMarks] argle
20:11:05 [seanbonner] para-dig-'em!
20:11:11 [tengi] I only have one.... can't even get a cup of coffee
20:11:16 [KevinMarks] anyone got a spare mac power supply
20:11:17 [todbot] paragonadigm
20:11:22 [markp] twbray: join the club
20:11:44 [neb__] these big companies
20:11:48 [dotBen] surely authors/artists create the value on Amazon? I ultimately buy the books, not the people's reccomendations?
20:11:49 [KevinMarks] if so cna i borrow it in the front row on the left
20:11:55 [markp] kevinmarks; yes, i do
20:11:55 [markp] back of the room
20:11:55 [markp] 3 rows up
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20:11:56 [jibot] bragiel is Paul Bragiel, one of the founders of Meetro (www.meetro.com) and the owner of game development studio Paragon 5
20:12:12 [dotBen] BBC 60k?
20:12:16 [dotBen] more like 28k
20:12:18 [gnat] dotBen prefers big pieces tightly coupled. He pays $50 for 5 minutes to tightly couple with big pieces.
20:12:28 [KevinMarks] OK, heading back to borrow it mark
20:12:38 [neb__] gnat+
20:12:42 [KevinMarks] left or right of room
20:12:44 [alice_] 25K, ben
20:12:48 [alice_] and dropping
20:12:48 [rich_gibson] gnat+
20:12:52 [dotBen] yeah, and don't get me started on what I can get for a paradigm...
20:13:02 [dotBen] yeah, alice
20:13:02 [mattb] 25k plus freelancers
20:13:20 [mattb] doesn't it hover around 40k?
20:13:20 [alice_] 22k is the goal, i hear
20:13:20 [dotBen] more like 15k plus freelancers
20:13:26 [KevinMarks] what about freeloaders?
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20:13:39 [alice_] good on toast.
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20:13:41 [twbray] Mark is walking around looking for Kevin
20:13:43 [dotBen] Wow, someone should create something like a virtual mechanincal turk or something
20:13:44 [twbray] Kevin, jump up
20:14:12 [seanbonner] Kevin just walked past me
20:14:13 *** gra (n=gra@203.161.67.78.dyn.amnet.net.au) has joined #etech
20:14:14 [jibot] gra is Graeme & in Fremantle, Australia & blogs at http://gra.id.au & http://freo.com & occasionally at http://gadgetlounge.net
20:14:25 [Yoz] alice_: got a crack for quake3?
20:14:31 [dotBen] Kevin jump up and do the house of pain dance
20:14:37 [alice_] on my mac? ;)
20:14:44 [dotBen] darn it, Amazon got there first :(
20:14:45 [neb__] "how do we bring them into the machine?"
20:15:04 [markp] thank you all, we made the exchange
20:15:08 [todbot] geek ex machina
20:15:21 [dotBen] MechTurk is the platform for the virtual digital sweatshop for the 21st century. Discuss?
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20:15:34 [rich_gibson] what is there to discuss...you are right.
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20:15:44 [huslage] hey rich_gibson
20:15:50 [huslage] you here?
20:15:53 [KevinMarks] hm, that didn't light up either
20:15:53 [Yoz] greets holgate
20:15:55 [rich_gibson] yes
20:16:01 [KevinMarks] i hope my motherboard isn't dead
20:16:06 [markp] hmm, then you're boned
20:16:11 [bragiel] hey guys... I put out an alpha of Meetro for the mac today for you guys...
20:16:13 [markp] it works, i charged my laptop a few hours ago
20:16:16 [holgate] evening, Mr Yoz.
20:16:17 [seanbonner] is the powerstrip dead?
20:16:30 [bragiel] www.meetro.com/Meetro.dmg I'd appreciate if you guys would give us some feedback
20:16:36 [Yoz] holgate: looking forward to seeing you in the fortnight.
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20:16:38 [dotBen] Kevin, I hope my bored mother isn't dead
20:16:39 [KevinMarks] i don't want to jiggle it in case the projector goes out
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20:17:00 [holgate] yeah, don't rearrange all the furniture in London to confuse me.
20:17:04 [neb__] ai yi yi
20:17:11 [tengi] if he says podcast, I get bingo
20:17:23 [markp] we already had podcast transcription
20:17:27 [Yoz] my grandma's computer industry had nicer soup
20:17:27 [markp] so you win!
20:17:27 [seanbonner] this ain't your older sister's internet
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20:17:28 [jibot] genmon is http://interconnected.org/home (matt webb) and preacherman
20:17:34 [KevinMarks] if he says podcast ben h gets royalties
20:17:40 [dotBen] I don't think it ever was my 'grandmother's computer industry'. But isn't that the problem? We're still too geek focused
20:17:41 [tengi] right, I missed that. BINGO!
20:17:44 [neb__] do the users go in his homebrew harness?
20:17:46 [todbot] are all the colors purposely muted bluegray?
20:17:50 [holgate] podcast transcripts: getting 'um' in 14,000 dialects was the tricky bit.
20:18:18 [markp] anything that makes podcasts more accessible can't be all bad
20:18:20 [twra2] gentlemen
20:18:23 [dotBen] wow there's some old people in the house tonight
20:18:23 [twra2] we can REBUILD HIM
20:18:40 [twra2] dotBen: alternatievely, there are people who have harnessed the power of reruns
20:18:42 [seanbonner] wheelchair accessible podcasts
20:18:44 [oren] hey watch it wit that talk about old people
20:18:50 [huslage] i find it hard to identify people by looking at the back of thier heads.
20:18:54 [KevinMarks] i remember the 6 million dollar woman
20:18:55 [tengi] na, na , na, na, na, na....
20:18:57 [dotBen] [ducks]
20:19:04 [rgiles] now now dotBen. I'm sure the BBC will show it again.
20:19:09 [cspurgeon] what's that site?
20:19:14 [KevinMarks] she could open tins with her fingernails
20:19:18 [twra2] boxxet
20:19:19 [rohit__] Anyone else seen the Six Million Rupee Man
20:19:27 [rohit__] on BBC's Goodness Gracious Me?
20:19:29 [dotBen] rgiles: if we do then I'll exclaim we are leveraging the power of the long tail!
20:19:40 [huslage] yeah rohit__
20:19:41 [rgiles] :)
20:19:43 [huslage] hilarious
20:19:52 [huslage] long tail 2.0
20:20:06 [rich_gibson] even longer tail
20:20:10 [huslage] name dropping 2.0
20:20:21 [crschmidt] ooh, ooh, i can play that one!
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20:20:27 [dotBen] huslange++
20:20:32 [huslage] lol
20:20:35 [cspurgeon] thanks
20:20:45 [KevinMarks] diplodocus 2.0
20:20:47 [todbot] 6 million rupee == $135,000 USD
20:20:49 [neb__] the Prehensile Tail: revolution
20:20:54 [huslage] righto KevinFink
20:20:59 [huslage] err. KevinMarks
20:21:03 [huslage] damn tabs
20:21:13 [huslage] the $135,000 Man!
20:21:14 [huslage] YES
20:21:17 [genmon] intelligence augmentation not artificial intelligence. nice phrase
20:21:19 [twra2] ok
20:21:20 [rohit__] yay Englebart -- is Bootstrap Inst. going to get credit for that line?
20:21:22 [huslage] what is his point?
20:21:24 [rohit__] IA is Doug's
20:21:27 [genmon] only, like, the whole history of the computer industry
20:21:32 [twra2] my pb battery just lept from about 60% to 100% instantly. this is NOT GOOD
20:21:33 [dotBen] Man, just when I thought IA stood for Information Arcitecture, Tim goes and changes it! Damn you Mr O'Reilly!
20:21:34 [blosx] IA = idiot acronym
20:21:36 [genmon] rohit: fully
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20:21:45 [huslage] boing
20:21:52 [markp] damn
20:21:57 [cspurgeon] george dyson's talk totally kicked ass last year.
20:21:59 [markp] i want my power cord back :)
20:22:01 [huslage] fishing.
20:22:06 [huslage] i wanna go
20:22:08 [dotBen] Hacking in the physical world always sounds like slashing and murding to me..
20:22:17 [huslage] when is dyson's talk?
20:22:22 [holgate] cspurgeon+
20:22:28 [KevinFink] My 4-year-old loves Make. Scares his mommy...
20:22:38 [dotBen] I can hear a lot of sucking in the room, maybe this is a different Dyson talk?
20:22:43 [Yoz] david thinks Make is the secret plan to help more geeks out of prison
20:23:05 [Yoz] "50 Ways to distract prison wardens with your iPod"
20:23:20 [holgate] dotBen: killer Dysons.
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20:23:38 [dotBen] Latest edition of make showed you how to build a power strip that would short out and kill you. I hear the next edition has 50% less subscribers
20:23:56 [tengi] sounds like somebody talking into a fan
20:24:07 [holgate] http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail454.html -- last year's Dyson talk, on how all the cool 50s scientists lived in one big office building.
20:24:09 [KevinFink] Simply Amazing (TM)
20:24:13 [eidosix] Kelly Dobson--screambody woman?
20:24:24 [huslage] gimme
20:24:27 [huslage] how i make?
20:24:34 [seanbonner] I want a voice control Toaster
20:24:39 [scrumble] To make your Windows computer boot up, just sing Da Da Da Daaaaaaaaaaa.
20:24:56 [huslage] i want a voice controlled life
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20:25:00 [huslage] oh wait. already have one
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20:25:05 [rich_gibson] I want a life
20:25:08 [twra2] http://web.media.mit.edu/~monster/blendie/
20:25:09 [blosx] to make it crash, just type on the keys ;)
20:25:11 [dotBen] like power strips that kill you
20:25:12 [seanbonner] I want a voice
20:25:34 [huslage] thanks twra2
20:25:41 * dotBen wants to point out O'Reilly sent an update that warned you. Mad props to the O'Reilly people
20:25:47 [scrumble] Or to make it crash, boot it and leave it alone.
20:25:48 [huslage] who needs google when you gots #etech
20:26:05 [seanbonner] Ask #etech
20:26:25 [huslage] 2nd life. eh
20:26:32 [lyza] enh. gluh
20:26:39 [neb__] i thought that said "Mod Your ADD"
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20:26:56 [huslage] I did that this morning, neb__
20:26:57 [seanbonner] 2nd Life 2.0
20:27:03 [rich_gibson] and then we can just move in and forget about the real world.
20:27:06 * dotBen wishes he had time to properlly experience his first life
20:27:07 [cspurgeon] yow, that's just TOO self-referencial.
20:27:10 [huslage] 2.0 2.0
20:27:14 * huslage explodes
20:27:27 [Yoz] wait, that's not how you spell Fairy
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20:27:32 [holgate] at some point, they start using powers rather than increments.
20:27:36 [dotBen] did Tim just mutter "shut up" to himself?
20:27:38 [twra2] SEGWAY!
20:27:49 [cheesebikini] whats burning man
20:27:51 [huslage] 2.0^2
20:27:57 [rich_gibson] I heard 'rosebud'
20:27:58 [dotBen] cheesebikini: naked people2.0
20:28:03 [holgate] cheesbikine: the voice-activated toaster
20:28:06 [cheesebikini] heh
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20:28:07 [huslage] that booth is too close to the bus
20:28:18 [rich_gibson] it was voip, pre skype.
20:28:19 [huslage] that's an idea?
20:28:28 [huslage] i thought it was always that.
20:28:37 [huslage] it was SIP.
20:29:10 [dotBen] or collaborative lack of inteligence. There people to listen to the "Pussy Cat Dolls"
20:29:12 [huslage] he likes his daughter's boyfriends a little much ;)
20:29:14 [twra2] nepoptism 2.0?
20:29:29 [rich_gibson] he's a nice guy.
20:29:30 * huslage collaboratively intelligent
20:29:30 [twra2] ooh. nepoptism. nice typo, given context
20:29:35 [huslage] i know, rich_gibson i was just screwin
20:29:43 [tengi] spyware 2.0
20:29:49 [huslage] sarcasm is an instant s/n killer
20:29:51 [scrumble] Next step: install LastFM ear implant and it will know everything you listen to.
20:29:54 [twra2] rich_gibson: oh, i know, i wan't saying he wasn't
20:30:03 [twra2] we talk about what we know, after all
20:30:16 [dotBen] So we allow one company to monitor every track we listen to, yet we get concerned about privacy issues when we find out ISPs monitor what urls we access?
20:30:21 [huslage] ouch my brain
20:30:30 [Yoz] anyone have a URL for the "photo notes" app which he mentioned in Instructables? Google isn't helping
20:30:35 [holgate] LastFM is a black Pentagon project to incapacitate evildoers by creating a perfect playlist.
20:30:35 [twra2] ...and which looks more fun?
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20:30:38 [KevinFink] Does that cancel out and become "No Life"?
20:30:42 [todbot] yoz: ditto. i can't find it
20:30:43 [tengi] like pointing the video camera at the TV
20:30:49 [dotBen] KevinFink++
20:30:58 [huslage] lol KevinFink
20:30:59 [genmon] dotBen: you can see the difference, right? isp vs last.fm
20:31:03 [seanbonner] trippy
20:31:17 [holgate] When they say it's the last audio stream you'll ever listen to, they mean it.
20:31:23 [markp] wow, ray ozzie at 8:40 AM
20:31:31 [cheesebikini] like "master of space and time"
20:31:32 [markp] so many reasons to miss that, i hardly know where to start
20:31:36 [tengi] todbot: try fotonotes.net
20:31:50 [huslage] anyone seen Imran Ali or anyone from France Telecom?
20:31:51 [dotBen] genmon: in that instance, maybe it wasn't the best example. but seriously, it's amazing how we get caught about privacy over one thing then let companies gather all this attention data on us
20:31:56 [todbot] ahh, with the non-phat 'f' instead of 'ph'
20:31:59 [rich_gibson] huslage - yes
20:32:02 [rich_gibson] they are all here
20:32:24 [neb__] is this a pay-to-play demo?
20:32:30 [holgate] have you picked out the obvious pay-to-plays yet?
20:32:42 [markp] this is the "sell out" part of the show
20:32:48 [cheesebikini] zimbra rocks... if only i had time to install it
20:32:50 [gnat] holgate: the pay to plays are in the track called "Products and Services"
20:32:56 [gnat] holgate: everyone else is here because they're interesting.
20:32:57 [huslage] i loke zimbra. use it a lot
20:32:57 [genmon] genmon: one part choice, one part transparency. we can see exactly what's been collected. but yeah, i don't use it because i don't want my data out there
20:33:04 [cheesebikini] how much?
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20:33:12 [huslage] too much, cheesebikini
20:33:14 [huslage] heh
20:33:16 [dotBen] I wound have thought this room would be satured with interest in an iPod Video or XBox 260
20:33:24 [dotBen] saturated* 360*
20:33:27 [lyza] Funny how many familiar names on this channel, yet I know no one here. I shall ponder that.
20:33:32 [Yoz] huslage: I was chatting to Imran earlier, he'sere
20:33:35 [Yoz] er, here
20:33:40 [huslage] i need to find him.
20:33:41 [todbot] and know his phone number now
20:33:41 [holgate] gnat: nice labelling.
20:34:06 [gnat] holgate: we try to keep things as cryptic and complex as possible because, well, you know, we're evil capitalist bastards.
20:34:48 [gnat] holgate: also, we only let people onto the backchannel who sponsored the IRC channel.
20:34:53 [twbray] Iyza: we're not real people, we're automata
20:34:55 [lyza] I think I hate demos.
20:35:07 [lyza] In general. Hate spread evenly across all demos.
20:35:09 [holgate] gnat: irony is, SXSW is much better at the evil capitalism, since they don't comp journalists. bastards.
20:35:10 [huslage] is that a pop-up or a pop-in?
20:35:29 [twra2] nb: 24 ringtone
20:35:31 [tengi] the same ring they use on 24....
20:35:33 [huslage] yeah, gnat.
20:35:35 [huslage] you are
20:35:36 [dotBen] joking aside, I'm not really getting what this product actually does
20:35:38 [todbot] why is tim's talk being padded by a demo?
20:35:54 [neb__] GIVE US OUR SPIMES!
20:36:03 [neb__] oh, sorry
20:36:07 [holgate] the 24 ringtone is just one of the Cisco IP-phone defaults, no?
20:36:11 [dotBen] lol - Tim looks at his watch. "they only paid for 5 minutes"
20:36:12 [lyza] zzzzzzzzzt.
20:36:41 [neb__] say hi from the backchannel gnat
20:36:48 [gnat] I'm a sarcastic bastard
20:36:48 [KevinFink] Cool app, lame demo
20:36:56 [dotBen] "are you excited about the competition" then removed the phone before they could say no
20:36:57 [dotBen] lol
20:37:08 [rich_gibson] "this is just one example" is a bad thing to say in a demo
20:37:21 [KevinFink] pity clap
20:37:24 [dotBen] lol
20:37:27 [todbot] hehe
20:37:32 [tengi] zimlet? sounds like a mixed drink made with zima and lime juice.....
20:37:36 [cspurgeon] great phrase
20:37:39 [seanbonner] "There's tons of people doing this already but let me show you..."
20:37:40 [todbot] i'd drink it
20:37:43 [dotBen] u is funny KevinFink. I hope someone calls you a fucking ass hole and makes you stand up during this confernece
20:37:46 [twra2] ah yes
20:37:46 [lyza] Enough jawing. Get to the meat of it so I can get some booze at some point before midnight!
20:37:55 [holgate] rich_gibson: meaning that they had a choice between others?
20:37:55 * twra2 has many, many boot disks for different memory configs
20:38:14 [rich_gibson] holgate...meaning it sounds like hand waving.
20:38:14 [tengi] can we get zimlets at the party?
20:38:18 [seanbonner] booze before midnight 2.0
20:38:21 [huslage] i have no problems with demos in keynotes. i like more interesting ones than that.
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20:38:26 [todbot] "i'll have a zimletl, shaken, and some spime poppers"
20:38:39 [tengi] seanbonner+
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20:38:50 [lyza] Zimlet implies Zima which would not be OK
20:38:55 [dotBen] Yay, no "loosly joined"!
20:39:08 [dotBen] Nice skirt!!!!
20:39:09 [holgate] Zim-fandel.
20:39:09 [KevinFink] Demos at keynotes at conferences with "Emerging" in the title shouldn't have been seen at the last 5 conferences I've been to...
20:39:12 [Yoz] mmmm, kilts
20:39:31 [dotBen] What do you call a man in a rugby shirt and a skirt???? Hmm, there must be a punchline somewhere in there...
20:39:37 [holgate] You Are Denied The Leather Utilikilt Of Hammersley.
20:39:50 [dotBen] Arh yes, a Cory Doctorow I guess
20:39:57 [rich_gibson] not everyone can wear a kilt like ben.
20:39:59 [holgate] dotBen: whatever he wants.
20:40:07 [KevinFink] Whatever you call him, you do it either very politely or very quietly.
20:40:11 [dotBen] eeek
20:40:19 [neb__] and there it was
20:40:20 [tengi] and the odd is wooing him back....
20:40:21 [dotBen] He BOUGHT that?
20:40:24 [lyza] Ah, the Hammserley effect
20:40:35 [oren] not convinced about them utilikilts
20:40:37 [dotBen] I thought that was a Hammer's cast-off/hand-me-down
20:40:40 [todbot] The Hacker Crackhouse
20:41:01 [holgate] I saw a utilikilt on display at a party last week. I remain dubious.
20:41:15 [dotBen] A pale shaddow, in a skirt... ?
20:41:20 [holgate] Ultilitoga, on the other hand.
20:41:28 [KevinFink] One of the utilikit models used to work for me. One of the larger ones. Nice guy, but...
20:41:29 [seanbonner] Luckily the Hammersly Effect isn't more widly felt
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20:41:36 [dotBen] I preferr the utilitong2.0
20:41:42 [huslage] we should all have kilts
20:41:57 [Yoz] http://www.flickr.com/photos/yoz/28326963/
20:42:10 [seanbonner] Huslage AKA Ewan
20:42:13 [dotBen] Foldera should really have given us a sponsored kilt, not a criminally thin (read:cheap) material t shirt
20:42:29 [huslage] nope
20:42:55 [twbray] Cory has such velocity
20:43:15 [markp] good word
20:43:19 [huslage] seanbonner, aka seanbonner
20:43:23 [gnat] is this your first etech, dotBen?
20:43:26 [dotBen] no
20:43:32 [dotBen] it is my seond
20:43:47 [Yoz] oy gevalt, that strut
20:43:52 [dotBen] I thought Rael was about to get up and say "sadly Bruce couldn't be here tonight"
20:43:53 [huslage] this new laptop is hot
20:43:53 [genmon] DANCE BRUCE DANCE
20:43:55 [dotBen] why do you ask GNat?
20:43:55 [huslage] cute, Yoz
20:43:57 [oren] Stevie Wonder? whassup with that?
20:44:00 [lyza] How come it's my second but I see no one I saw before?
20:44:08 [Yoz] er
20:44:09 [neb__] meme attack: spime, i choose you!
20:44:20 [holgate] lyza: body transplants 2.0
20:44:24 [lyza] screed
20:44:46 [Yoz] he's selling plutonium
20:45:03 [Yoz] I said Stallman ABOVE puppet show
20:45:07 [seanbonner] I saw Lyza last year
20:45:18 [gnat] dotBen: just wondering why you'd come back if you are enjoying it as little as your comments would suggest.
20:45:28 [dotBen] no, actually, I am really enjoying
20:45:32 [dotBen] (honest)
20:45:47 [gnat] That's good to hear.
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20:45:59 [huslage] he can put the laptop down.
20:46:02 [huslage] it won't explode
20:46:07 [dotBen] am also going to pause as I'm quite interested in this talk
20:46:34 [mattb] bruce did this talk at lift06, it was really rather awesome
20:46:37 [Yoz] and in 2038 he'll be again
20:46:43 [Yoz] er, he'll be 0 again
20:46:47 [Yoz] never mind
20:46:53 [mattb] oops, just misread the current slide
20:46:55 [mattb] SHAGGING THINGS
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20:47:07 [mattb] jetlag kicking in...
20:47:12 [gnat] i suspect he has his notes on the screen, which is why he's holding his laptop
20:47:14 [holgate] ooh, it's Badly Drawn Biddulph
20:47:15 [lyza] mmmm. shag.
20:47:32 [Yoz] holgate++++++
20:47:40 [dotBen] Jimbo Whales the loose grab bag! lol
20:47:44 [mattb] =)
20:47:48 [huslage] oic, gnat
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20:49:49 [dotBen] My laptop knows when it's out of batteries
20:50:28 [lyza] My laptop knows it sucks
20:50:43 [huslage] my laptop is burning my lap
20:50:55 [huslage] macbookpro esta caliente
20:51:13 [rohit__] Google's version? Colossus: the Forbes project
20:51:17 [twbray] Hope you & your spouse aren't trying to procreate
20:51:30 [holgate] groin-burns are the curse of the early adopter.
20:51:31 [huslage] lol twbray
20:51:34 * lyza now wants macbook even badder. No babies.
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20:51:38 [huslage] it's entirely possible
20:51:50 [dotBen] laptops burning laps is why us geeks are having less kids...
20:52:05 [huslage] i wish it weren't wasting battery energy on heating my lap
20:52:17 * seanbonner got a lapfan. mmm breezy
20:52:35 [dotBen] lapfan? Sounds debaucherous
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20:52:37 * holgate reminds himself to pack the iLap.
20:52:55 [huslage] i need to get one of those
20:53:02 * holgate realises that 'iLap' sounds like a sex toy for women.
20:53:04 [adam_GFX2] the new Leather iLap!
20:53:10 [twbray] Lapinator is very good
20:53:11 [huslage] how much battery does that thing suck?
20:53:17 [seanbonner] oh yes, it's fan-tastic
20:53:33 [dotBen] the batter sucks on your lap? what?
20:54:00 [seanbonner] not much, USB and pretty light, but I'm plugged in so no biggie
20:54:02 [KevinFink] No wonder he's swaying back and forth...
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20:54:10 [seanbonner] rule #1 of etech - ABC
20:54:15 [seanbonner] Always Be Charging
20:54:20 [twra2] Always Be Charging?
20:54:25 [dotBen] you are definitely going to get called out KevinFink, I hope
20:54:28 [huslage] i need a power point
20:54:47 [huslage] there aren't any power points here
20:54:54 [lyza] I have 6hours remaining. I can be glib at y'alls now
20:54:55 [huslage] unusually
20:54:59 [huslage] :P
20:55:00 [seanbonner] lots of power here
20:55:04 [lyza] I might tote a POS but it lasts forever
20:55:36 [huslage] i'm on the right side of the room.
20:55:40 [huslage] power hungry area
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20:55:53 [dotBen] hello tantekc
20:55:55 * seanbonner is dragging around an extra battery, a powerstrip and a 10' extension cord
20:55:57 [adam_GFX2] its etech... i am disappointed there is not a pebble bed reactor in the floor
20:55:59 [TantekC] hey dotben
20:56:05 [huslage] lol
20:56:10 [seanbonner] tantek
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20:56:15 [TantekC] yo sean
20:56:53 [seanbonner] tantek - I'm sitting next to Felix (plazes) and he has stickers for you
20:56:55 [dotBen] so does Bruce's talk consist of one slide?
20:57:05 [dotBen] or has he forgotton to switch on the next one?
20:57:06 [huslage] should have eaten before keynotes
20:57:12 [huslage] damn late flight
20:57:18 [cheesebikini] i miss The Nokia Slide
20:57:20 [todbot] the ultimate book plug: one full hour of a single image
20:57:53 [lyza] Okay...what? I need a sentence with a subject and a verb.
20:58:02 [lyza] That was a lot of words there.
20:58:04 [seanbonner] I run
20:58:11 [lyza] Not from you, silly :)
20:58:17 [huslage] because he's a writer
20:58:18 [lyza] Okay, he's speaking in sentences again. Woot.
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20:58:27 [factoryjoe] Mr dotBen
20:58:39 [seanbonner] Mr Joe
20:58:44 [dotBen] FactoryJoe
20:58:45 [huslage] gnat, this should have been tomorrow morning i think
20:58:49 [factoryjoe] hello sir
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20:59:02 [nsjacob] yeah...he was sounding like Wozniak for a sec
20:59:04 [seanbonner] this is a think speach for 9pm
20:59:04 [lyza] I'm going to try to forget that I'm a writer, too, because words hurt me today.
20:59:22 [lyza] I'm losing my edge.
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20:59:33 [factoryjoe] splif?
20:59:34 [gnat] huslage: we just need to sponsor a bong :)
20:59:38 [huslage] we need more brain food
20:59:41 [huslage] lol gnat
20:59:41 [twra2] this is *good* - agree on the timing thing
20:59:48 [twra2] but i'm loving the whole linguistic angle
20:59:52 [huslage] i like him. i'm just hungry
20:59:54 [factoryjoe] this totally needs to be a dr suess story
20:59:57 [huslage] hard to pay attention
20:59:58 [lyza] I love the linguistic angle, too.
20:59:59 [scrumble_] Computer: Where is my bottle of Viagra?
21:00:12 [factoryjoe] oh, an internet of things
21:00:13 [lyza] I just need more alcohol. Or something. I chose a bad week to give up amphetamines. Or something.
21:00:13 [huslage] i wasn't complaining about the content AT ALL.
21:00:18 [dotBen] FactoryJoe: yeah the cat in the spime
21:00:21 [factoryjoe] is a very fine somefing
21:00:22 [tengi] http://flickr.com/photos/joi/6186/
21:00:28 [huslage] my ADD is killing me
21:00:31 [holgate] writeups, pls! or recordings, when you can.
21:00:39 [twra2] so lost socks have a zero pagerank, right?
21:00:49 [huslage] yes, twbray
21:00:52 [huslage] twra2,
21:01:07 [huslage] you found it tengi
21:01:08 [seanbonner] Did I mention yet that I'm actually covering eTech for Suicide Girls?
21:01:08 [huslage] thanks!
21:01:13 [todbot] LOL
21:01:14 [twra2] yes, huslage
21:01:16 [twra2] ?
21:01:27 [twra2] ah, got it
21:01:53 [huslage] Spine is not a new word. am i missing something?
21:01:59 [todbot] spime
21:02:02 [huslage] oic
21:02:06 [huslage] i thought i missed something
21:02:08 [seanbonner] it's a teory object
21:02:10 [twra2] objects in SPace and tIME
21:02:12 [todbot] spit + slime
21:02:19 [todbot] oh...
21:02:27 [huslage] heard that part, twra2 just not a spelling
21:02:30 [tengi] huslage: google knows all :-)
21:02:30 [factoryjoe] and spam!
21:02:40 [seanbonner] and a 2.0!
21:02:43 [twra2] hus - yes, but hence SP+IME
21:02:43 [huslage] i thought #etech knew all
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21:02:52 [TantekC] and plenty of ajax too
21:02:55 [huslage] yes. got it. thanks twra2
21:02:55 [factoryjoe] and an "r"
21:03:04 [dotBen] rejoice: a second slide!
21:03:09 [-- rohit__ has quit (Remote closed the connection)
21:03:17 [[1]Yoz] I'm looking forward to not being able to get dressed in the morning because my socks have crashed
21:03:18 [TantekC] dumbest, cheapest, most obvious thing
21:03:24 [twra2] huslage: sorry, not meaning to hammer it home - eightpoint monaco is not exactly the subtlest of tools
21:03:28 [TantekC] hmm... where have i heard THAT before?
21:03:34 [TantekC] :D
21:03:38 [seanbonner] NEW SLIDE!
21:03:42 [huslage] no worries, twra2
21:03:43 [factoryjoe] rel="obvious"
21:03:46 [holgate] crashsock.org
21:03:52 [seanbonner] sock2.0
21:03:52 [huslage] there's your 2.0
21:04:02 [TantekC] because my everyday object is made from the stuff already on my web pages :p
21:04:07 [holgate] trashbat.so.ck
21:04:13 [-- cheesebikini has quit ()
21:04:26 [huslage] the word needs help. it is difficult to hear.
21:04:31 [oren] spime sounds like spam slime
21:04:44 [huslage] it requires context. it cannot live alone
21:04:46 [TantekC] "hype is a system call on your attention"
21:04:48 * mattb suggests a moratorium on jokes of the form 'X 2.0', for all X
21:04:55 [tengi] hype 2.0
21:05:01 [TantekC] hype++
21:05:03 [seanbonner] mattb 2.o
21:05:04 [huslage] thanks mattb.
21:05:11 [TantekC] 2.0.2.0
21:05:11 [tengi] obscurantis?
21:05:20 [anselm] lo rich - here
21:05:21 [holgate] Set up a '2.0 box', with forced donations of booze.
21:05:21 [jsn-home] obscurantist
21:05:25 [mattb] holgast
21:05:29 [oren] tantek, did you get my earlier message about a calendaring bof tomorrow?
21:05:29 * lyza heard booze
21:05:30 [mattb] erk
21:05:30 [seanbonner] hype is not the truth
21:05:32 [mattb] holgate++
21:05:35 [twra2] holgate: like, trash, the everyday trash around us...
21:05:35 [TantekC] "the opposite of hype is not the truth"
21:05:38 [twra2] and
21:05:38 [twra2] sock\
21:05:47 [holgate] or donations that go towards a 'no to 2.0 party' at the end of the week.
21:05:54 [factoryjoe] r-go?
21:05:58 [TantekC] argo
21:05:58 [lyza] Shit, I need socks. I honestly forgot to pack them.
21:05:58 [huslage] argo
21:06:03 [lyza] I want to forget about socks.
21:06:05 [cspurgeon] argot
21:06:06 [factoryjoe] clik?
21:06:09 [huslage] they have stores lyza
21:06:11 [factoryjoe] cleeq.com?
21:06:11 [dotBen] does he mean ergo?
21:06:18 [huslage] clique, factoryjoe
21:06:19 [lyza] huslage : fewer than you'd think. Useful ones, anyway
21:06:22 [factoryjoe] maybe argon?
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21:06:27 [anselm] sean
21:06:29 [anselm] here?
21:06:35 [tengi] from wordnet: obscurantist - a person who is deliberately vague
21:06:39 [seanbonner] sorry?
21:06:41 [lyza] tengi : Perfect
21:06:45 [huslage] i literally got here like an hour ago, lyza. i'm afraid i won't be much help
21:06:45 [factoryjoe] nice
21:06:48 [cspurgeon] no, he means, argot, pronounced "arr-got"
21:06:49 [anselm] cheesebikini: here?
21:06:56 [factoryjoe] back one slide@!
21:07:03 [factoryjoe] everywhere '95
21:07:03 [lyza] San Diego makes me feel, always, like I just got here
21:07:05 [huslage] i almost bought that.
21:07:08 [factoryjoe] upgrade now!
21:07:12 [holgate] he pronouced 'argot' as ar-go?
21:07:13 [cheesebikini] anselm: si
21:07:14 [huslage] lol lyza
21:07:18 [anselm] cool
21:07:19 [factoryjoe] isn't that a windows background?
21:07:22 [huslage] so it is argot?
21:07:26 [todbot] everyware kicks spime's butt
21:07:28 [anselm] stand up and wave
21:07:49 [huslage] next it'll be spimeware
21:07:55 [huslage] everyime
21:07:56 [cheesebikini] im in the back back corner... im the most back corner person here
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21:07:58 [jibot] nicolesimon is from Lubeck
21:08:04 [nicolesimon] evening channel.
21:08:06 [anselm] i guess soft and round is out now in favor of sharp and spiky
21:08:09 [huslage] hi nicole
21:08:10 [twra2] i believe it's argot, with a t?
21:08:15 [holgate] 'spime', pronounced 'spimmy'
21:08:18 [[1]Yoz] greets anselm
21:08:22 [lyza] or speeee-may
21:08:25 [lyza] in France
21:08:26 [huslage] yes, twra2
21:08:26 [cheesebikini] or blog
21:08:29 [anselm] hey yoz
21:08:33 [cheesebikini] blog is a verbal crime against humanity
21:08:35 [tengi] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everyware
21:08:38 [may_] hey anselm!
21:08:39 [huslage] it's the way he said it without accent
21:08:45 [twra2] once again, i fail to see scrollback
21:08:50 [anselm] hey may - i was suspicious that was u
21:08:56 [may_] where are you?
21:09:03 [huslage] google is not an authorotative source
21:09:06 [holgate] argot, like ergot, the hallucinatory fungus.
21:09:07 [nicolesimon] it would be argo if he spoke it french
21:09:09 [anselm] standing by the exit with laptop accordian
21:09:11 [lyza] I tried looking up Spime on Wikipedia a few minutes ago and it made me feel like burning
21:09:41 [huslage] battery just went to red.
21:09:45 [lyza] internecine!
21:09:45 [huslage] where is power?
21:09:49 [anselm] run!
21:09:54 [-- nsjacob has quit ()
21:09:58 [nicolesimon] everywhere. look at the bottom
21:10:02 [cheesebikini] huslage: back cornersville
21:10:04 [huslage] none over here
21:10:14 * nicolesimon wants to shoot people who make the door close loudly
21:10:19 [huslage] corner? to left or right of the stage?
21:10:21 [cheesebikini] back right corner baby... we got yer power, we got yer spime
21:10:23 [tengi] is anybody recording this?
21:10:32 [nicolesimon] i am assuming doug kaye
21:10:33 [huslage] there are cameras, tengi
21:10:39 [cheesebikini] if youre facing the stage, its back right
21:10:40 [nicolesimon] at least i expect it to be recorded
21:10:40 [dotBen] the two guys next to me have fallen asleep - no joke
21:11:00 [lyza] This would be a tough go if English weren't your first lanugage
21:11:04 [holgate] if not, I suspect it might be like this talk: http://www.businessweek.com/mediacenter/podcasts/innovation/innovation_12_13_05.htm
21:11:07 [nicolesimon] dotben well, it is late for the kids
21:11:23 [[1]Yoz] I'm sure loads of people are horrifically jetlagged
21:11:45 [dotBen] yes must be that Yoz
21:12:03 [KevinFink] This would be a better time for Dick Hardt's talk. This one has too many words.
21:12:07 [huslage] ahhh spime
21:12:12 [nicolesimon] jetlag? actually, i was better the first three days than i am now afer over a week *sigh*
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21:12:19 [Ewan_] its a tough go even in English
21:12:20 [holgate] if people have been to the sessions, that'll knacker them.
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21:12:28 [huslage] Spime worries me.
21:12:39 [huslage] i like the idea. the word bothers me
21:12:43 [tengi] holgate: thanks
21:12:44 [gnat] I do believe he's mocking Tim.
21:12:45 [cheesebikini] new lemon spime flavored
21:12:46 [gnat] heh.
21:12:58 [lyza] Spime enzymes
21:13:00 [huslage] gnat. get the anti-tim gun
21:13:09 [huslage] anti-tim-mockery gun
21:13:10 [cheesebikini] heh.. sounds like the opening to george carlins new book
21:13:13 [lyza] gun. I was just thinking guns are coming soon.
21:13:20 [factoryjoe] that was a sentence?
21:13:21 [dotBen] man, and I get knocked for being just as snarky? Ok, I do don't deliver it as intelectually sounding as he does...
21:13:22 [nicolesimon] water guns would be more fun
21:13:27 [gnat] heh, and he called him "prolix"
21:13:29 [gnat] rock on
21:13:35 [huslage] lol
21:13:37 [twbray] exciting? I wouldn't go that far
21:13:38 [holgate] tengi: I mean that in a good way. You spend a day at a session, your brain is stuffed.
21:14:00 [lyza] I can actually feel my brain whimpering and squishing around in my skull.
21:14:05 [huslage] it is what it is.
21:14:09 [rich_gibson] his words are clearly better than tim's - that is why he got more time, right gnat?
21:14:14 [twra2] i'm pretty fried
21:14:17 [huslage] people need words. web 2.0 is words
21:14:25 [twra2] left my hotel at 0710 this morning
21:14:34 [cheesebikini] keep your skype out of my spime
21:14:36 [twra2] have been working/thinking since then. hard work
21:14:37 [nicolesimon] i thought that was supposed to be flickr instead of words in web 2.0
21:14:42 [huslage] lol
21:14:50 [gnat] rich: oh yes, nobody could describe bruce as prolix.
21:14:50 [gnat] *cough*
21:14:52 [huslage] that slide broke :(
21:15:08 [huslage] spime is also this
21:15:16 [holgate] so, are you all going up to bruce sterling's hotel room to take a photo in the bathroom mirror?
21:15:21 [huslage] ok
21:15:28 [huslage] oh. wait.
21:15:29 [huslage] no
21:15:37 [nicolesimon] most writers are usually best - being just writers.
21:15:39 [nicolesimon] :=)
21:15:50 [lyza] This is like listening to a book, indeed.
21:15:57 [huslage] indeed
21:16:00 [huslage] my brain
21:16:06 [rich_gibson] it is interesting...I like his words, a lot, and his presentation, but somehow the one doesn't support the other.
21:16:06 [seanbonner] yes, this is not a 9pm talk
21:16:11 [nicolesimon] just with annoying closing doors.
21:16:15 [seanbonner] this would be a good just befoore lunch talk
21:16:17 [lyza] I need to see this in characters because these are words I normally read, not hear
21:16:17 [KevinFink] He's a dynamic speaker - he just uses too many syllables per word.
21:16:17 [huslage] i think the problem is the TIME
21:16:22 [dotBen] holgate: it's already done: http://flickr.com/photos/dotben/108684039/
21:16:26 [huslage] yes, seanbonner
21:16:28 [rich_gibson] I am really with him on the importance of language and naming.
21:16:33 [huslage] as i said to gnat earlier
21:16:39 [gnat] he needs to show us what he's quoting
21:16:40 [TantekC] "serious semantic problems"
21:16:42 [lyza] About prematurely cementing semantics, yes
21:16:48 [huslage] why, gnat ?
21:16:57 [lyza] My butt hurts
21:16:58 [nicolesimon] aah. the plaze is filling up :)))
21:17:16 [rich_gibson] a priesthood of backend afficiondos?
21:17:21 [huslage] you rich
21:17:21 [TantekC] "a priesthood of backend and middleware coders"
21:17:24 [twra2] OK, so our entire powerstrip died
21:17:25 [twra2] either that
21:17:27 [Yoz] "It's a priest thing, you wouldn't understand"
21:17:28 [seanbonner] lyza indeed, these chairs are teh suxorz
21:17:31 [twra2] or all our adaptors died
21:17:48 [huslage] emergency emergency
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21:17:50 [huslage] lol
21:17:53 [huslage] not natural
21:18:12 [lyza] This talk makes me feel like watching some sort of WB sitcom to blank myself for a while. Or something similarly banal and horrific.
21:18:12 [holgate] oh my. the canonical bruce sterling bathroom mirror photo?
21:18:13 [holgate] http://infinitematrix.net/columns/sterling/sterlingi.html
21:18:14 [rich_gibson] damn right!
21:18:18 [huslage] yeah, so?
21:18:21 [cheesebikini] backend spime
21:18:21 [holgate] from 2000. six years ago.
21:18:21 [huslage] what's wrong with that
21:18:28 [rich_gibson] exactly!
21:18:31 [Yoz] HE TOTALLY QUOTED NTK
21:18:35 [huslage] lol
21:18:35 [twra2] WIN BUTTON
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21:18:39 [seanbonner] yeah, a joke about selling to Yahoo!
21:18:43 [TantekC] is this a book reading?
21:18:45 [cspurgeon] ywa, more job security for me
21:18:48 [Ewan_] NTK++
21:18:51 [Yoz] "They stole our revolution, now we're stealing it back - and selling it to Yahoo"
21:18:53 [genmon] the NTK quote clap was from the brit corner :)
21:18:54 [Ewan_] With no Danny or Dave in teh room
21:18:55 [rich_gibson] I am not sure that was a joke-just an observation re. selling to yahoo.
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21:19:13 [twra2] rich_gibson: well, it might make NTK more freequent again...
21:19:14 [rich_gibson] it is sort of a remix speech.
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21:19:24 [seanbonner] show of hands - who HASN'T sold something to yahoo!?
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21:19:35 * Ewan_ grumbles not yet
21:19:36 [nicolesimon] *show* :)
21:19:38 [Yoz] twra2: not without sneaking Dave a dose of speed
21:19:39 [rich_gibson] sean - not counting yoru soul?
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21:19:48 [huslage] the utter density of this language is hard to follow
21:19:50 [rich_gibson] gnat's gone-now you can talk smack :-)
21:19:50 [seanbonner] souls included
21:19:54 [Ewan_] soul or soul 2.0?
21:19:56 [rich_gibson] huslage-maybe that is it.
21:20:01 [seanbonner] soul beta
21:20:03 [nicolesimon] sean souls included ;)
21:20:11 [tengi] 2.0
21:20:15 [huslage] the resolution is too high for non-conversant media
21:20:18 [rich_gibson] it is an animimated speaker reading an interesting text
21:20:19 [factoryjoe] ooo lashup
21:20:26 [huslage] i like it
21:20:28 [huslage] but i don't.
21:20:31 [dotBen] So, who's going to buy the book then? Or is this like when you're at the movies and the trailer shows you all the best bits and there's no point watching the full feature
21:20:32 [huslage] torn
21:20:51 [huslage] i'll have to. i really want to understand this
21:20:53 [KevinFink] I like it but feel like I'm missing something.
21:20:54 [huslage] i love the ideas
21:20:56 [nicolesimon] dot actually, i think his book may be better. i don't like his pronociation. ;)
21:20:57 [Yoz] w00t, Standage
21:21:00 [cspurgeon] GREAT book.
21:21:02 [lyza] Did anyone else forget to eat dinner or am I the solo dipshit?
21:21:09 [seanbonner] just you
21:21:15 [Yoz] lyza: me too
21:21:16 [twra2] oh, i'm now sold on the book
21:21:16 [seanbonner] we had sushi pre
21:21:18 [Aaron_Fulkerson] That tapas place around the corner is awesome
21:21:18 [Yoz] dammit
21:21:19 [huslage] he speaks like he writes
21:21:20 [twra2] wasn't sure before i saw this
21:21:20 [anselm] http://www.viridiandesign.org/notes/151-175/00155_planetwork_speech.html
21:21:21 [Aaron_Fulkerson] higly recommended
21:21:22 [twra2] but this is great
21:21:23 [anselm] is brilliant by the way
21:21:24 [scrumble_] I'm hungry too.
21:21:25 [lyza] tapas? No kidding
21:21:25 [TantekC] ok, back to the room to keep working on the preso.
21:21:30 [Aaron_Fulkerson] yah it's awesome
21:21:31 [anselm] strongly recommend listening to the audio version
21:21:34 [Geodog] where tapas?
21:21:34 [TantekC] too much navel gazing
21:21:37 [nicolesimon] lyza nope. but they will be drinks soon and they will be so much better because of your empty stomage ;)
21:21:38 [cheesebikini] -- IT JUST HIT ME -- he talks just like Jello Biafra! --
21:21:40 [Aaron_Fulkerson] Uhh...like 3 blocks from here
21:21:47 [huslage] food is necessary
21:21:48 [Ewan_] It's pronounced Tay-pas
21:21:50 [rich_gibson] is that it?
21:21:52 [Yoz] is there going to be food at this party tonight or must we scavenge in the streets of San Diego?
21:21:52 [rich_gibson] oh...
21:21:56 [huslage] Tah-Pahs
21:22:00 [Aaron_Fulkerson] I forget the name of the place
21:22:02 [factoryjoe] i need food
21:22:07 [Aaron_Fulkerson] I perfer Tuah-puah
21:22:08 [twbray] I was told earlier "no food"
21:22:10 [Aaron_Fulkerson] (s)
21:22:11 [Yoz] factoryjoe: agreed
21:22:11 [oren] I think there's going to be dessert
21:22:14 [holgate] tapas: time and apas.
21:22:15 [lyza] Yoz: I heard party and I thought there was some cool underground thing going on for a sec but then I realized to what you refer
21:22:18 [twra2] no, you mean tay-pas
21:22:20 [seanbonner] suddnely the walk back to the W seems longer than it did walking over here
21:22:26 [Yoz] lyza: yes, grown-up party, alas
21:22:27 [lyza] So hungry
21:22:33 [huslage] one should not be subjected to keynotes prior to proper consumption
21:22:38 [Aaron_Fulkerson] Isn't there like a post-party?
21:22:39 [lyza] If they have booze but no food I'm screwed
21:22:41 [huslage] i think this is a food issue
21:22:44 [Aaron_Fulkerson] is ther a bar?
21:22:46 [dotBen] "I have no idea what he's talking about". Well that makes 1000 of us
21:22:49 [huslage] yeah there's food and booze out there
21:22:53 [lyza] hahaha dotben
21:22:55 [todbot] booze is food. booze is food!
21:22:56 [Aaron_Fulkerson] cool
21:22:58 [seanbonner] food and booze
21:23:00 [cheesebikini] like flash mob!
21:23:05 [factoryjoe] dotBen++
21:23:07 [lyza] He just used a word I don't know. And I know most words.
21:23:11 [lyza] I like to think
21:23:12 [huslage] he likes RFID a lot
21:23:23 [cheesebikini] lyza - what was the word
21:23:28 [factoryjoe] aren't rfids small bugs that burrow in your ear?
21:23:28 [huslage] i don't understand holding on to specific current technology
21:23:29 [lyza] lud something
21:23:33 [Aaron_Fulkerson] pronounced ra-fed
21:23:33 [twra2] ludic?
21:23:34 [nicolesimon] if you plan to be senile, rfid makes a lot of sense
21:23:40 [factoryjoe] nice nails
21:23:45 [Aaron_Fulkerson] printed re-fid
21:23:48 [huslage] tnice hand model
21:23:51 [Aaron_Fulkerson] indeed
21:23:54 [cspurgeon] excellent fingernails
21:23:54 [Yoz] nicolesimon++
21:23:57 [seanbonner] re-fid beans
21:23:58 [huslage] isn't this about 10 years old tech here?
21:24:00 [lyza] my computer is busy shitting itself for the fourth time today
21:24:01 [kitt] greaaaat.
21:24:01 [twra2] "us hand models are in a different league to the face and body guys"
21:24:09 [factoryjoe] skynet + rfid == sweet!
21:24:14 [huslage] thinglink?
21:24:21 [huslage] spime == thinglink
21:24:22 [Aaron_Fulkerson] uuullaaa
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21:24:25 [seanbonner] i have a feeling this isn't ending anytime soon
21:24:29 [huslage] nope
21:24:37 [huslage] he'll have to be stopped.
21:24:45 [huslage] HEMUSTBESTOPPED...brain needs food
21:24:53 [Aaron_Fulkerson] Someone scream: "I'm mad as hell and Im..."
21:24:58 [huslage] lol Aaron
21:24:58 [Aaron_Fulkerson] do it
21:25:01 [seanbonner] i think this would be a much better talk to listen to mid day after sufficient coffee intake
21:25:05 [dotBen] It's very kind of Adobe to have laid on the alcohol for us after this. I really must buy a legal copy of acrobat distiller
21:25:08 [Yoz] Nokia has already done this with RFIDs
21:25:09 [huslage] YES
21:25:18 [huslage] I have an rfid in my butt
21:25:24 [Yoz] tap the RFID with the phone, it calls up the URL
21:25:28 [cheesebikini] i want thang links
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21:25:31 [Aaron_Fulkerson] lol
21:25:33 [todbot] aka :cuecat
21:25:36 [huslage] i don't see this part as useful
21:25:38 [lyza] My ass is going to be unsusable for the remainder of evening now
21:25:40 [factoryjoe] totally cuecat
21:25:40 [tengi] ANd if you order now.....
21:25:40 [nicolesimon] linked thongs? well.
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21:25:45 [huslage] my ass crashed
21:25:46 [huslage] spime
21:25:55 [seanbonner] ass2.0
21:26:01 [huslage] stopit
21:26:01 [Aaron_Fulkerson] Yah, I was really enjoying this dude
21:26:02 [cheesebikini] spimethong
21:26:04 [nicolesimon] lyza just thingthink about the next days when you sit in these ...
21:26:11 [Aaron_Fulkerson] but I have a very short attention span and I'm read to get a drink now
21:26:15 [huslage] ok. he's made the turn
21:26:17 [nicolesimon] punchy?
21:26:19 [lyza] I should get an assCoddler
21:26:32 [seanbonner] not to self - bring pillow from room to sit on tomorrow
21:26:32 [Aaron_Fulkerson] I think it should be wookie
21:26:35 [Yoz] my thinglink brings all the girls to the yard
21:26:37 [dotBen] lyza, what else were you planning on using your ass for?
21:26:46 [Aaron_Fulkerson] why hasn't anyone done a wiki instance named wookie?
21:26:46 [huslage] he does not realize he's talking to a room full of ADD geeks?
21:26:49 [dotBen] just trying to work out the inconvienience
21:26:51 [huslage] blobjects
21:26:53 [lyza] dotBen : Oh, you know, bumping people out of the way, offending people, etc.
21:26:54 [Aaron_Fulkerson] I guess not
21:26:54 [nicolesimon] don't they teach people how to make good slides anywhere? *sigh*
21:26:56 [huslage] splime
21:26:58 [todbot] blogjects
21:27:02 [huslage] thinglinks
21:27:02 [seanbonner] dotben - didn't you see the wiki with planned uses for lyza's ass?
21:27:03 [Aaron_Fulkerson] My ADD is seriously paining me now
21:27:07 [factoryjoe] like a meme?
21:27:31 [factoryjoe] yeah, where's edward tufte cluebat?
21:27:31 [huslage] this whole talk is full of memes
21:27:37 [huslage] heh
21:27:46 [huslage] tufte should come to this
21:27:49 [nicolesimon] well bullshit bingo would not work so good.
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21:27:57 [Aaron_Fulkerson] This isn't going to turn into one of those swedish chef talks is it? "Blog Blog Blog Blog"
21:28:02 [Aaron_Fulkerson] OH NO IT IS
21:28:04 [huslage] we are OVER WORDING
21:28:05 [cheesebikini] the spime who loved me
21:28:05 [Aaron_Fulkerson] Blog blog blog lbog
21:28:15 [huslage] creating WORDS is not the need here
21:28:16 [factoryjoe] by blogging this blogject, you become a robot
21:28:16 [lyza] This talk is giving me a tic
21:28:18 [twbray] I don't think "blogbject" is going to catch on
21:28:22 [nicolesimon] blogthinklinksmemes
21:28:22 * Aaron_Fulkerson doesn't dig the swedish chef
21:28:30 [lyza] I'm going to be wandering around muttering blogblogblogblog now
21:28:31 [todbot] i think he's been insulting us the whole time, but i'm not sure
21:28:36 [nicolesimon] blimespingjink.
21:28:38 [factoryjoe] he's mezmerizing us
21:28:43 [twra2] todbot: it looks like contempt, but it's not
21:28:46 [huslage] i am in favor of a linguistic approach, but not necessarily inventing words that are unnecessary
21:28:47 * seanbonner crashes
21:28:57 [twra2] it's more a healthy dose of reality that he's firing out
21:28:57 [nicolesimon] he smiles, i think he is happy about this "speech".
21:28:59 [factoryjoe] no it'd be adwrods
21:29:02 [twra2] self-replicating devices!
21:29:05 [factoryjoe] eerrr adwords
21:29:05 [Yoz] how's the door-banging going over there?
21:29:05 [huslage] he's just been insulting you todbot
21:29:12 [Aaron_Fulkerson] hehe
21:29:13 [Aaron_Fulkerson] its wordMashUp 2.0
21:29:13 [lyza] If you look closely into my eyes at this point you'll just see the BSOD
21:29:19 [nicolesimon] the beginning was really nice, but now I think he forgot about the audience he is talking to.
21:29:19 [dotBen] this presentation was bought to you by the words "blogject", "spime" and the numeber 0 (the number of people who g