Another backchannel after the jump, this one from the session "Patterns: From Fabrics to Fabrication" by Make Magazine's Dale Dougherty.

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[KevinMarks] seanbonner++
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[davidcrow] voyeur jokes
[O_RLY] dale likes to watch
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[holgate] rub the felt, smell the glove
[BigD] fix the machine Igor!
[cybaea] mediaserf++
[gregbiggers] craft++
[O_RLY] if it's not scottish, it's craft!
[therealjeb] haaahahwaha
[mediaserf] Note to self: Rubbing the felt with AJAX causes the color to fade
[BigD] O_RLY: "I LOVE YOUUUUUU"
[davidcrow] O_RLY++
[Charo] "Field of Women"
[seanbonner] playing_with_a_bullwhip++
[gregbiggers] "you might remember playing with a bullwhip once"
[O_RLY] make: feel the bullwhip
[BigD] that tech guy looks cool
[sexygirl153] World os (war)craft
[sexygirl153] *of
[todbot] WoC?
[therealjeb] MAn where is the epic genius freaks VIDEO
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[RemyDWD] World Of Craft would be a great MMO.
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[O_RLY] timmiy, have you ever played with a bullwhip?
[KevinMarks] I want to start a conference on submerging technologies
[holgate] world of needlecraft
[mouthbeef] RemyDWD++
[BigD] we could group up and knit
[therealjeb] Level 60 Needlepointress
[cspurgeon_] O_RLY++
[AKChris] World of craft, Quest for the Golden Knitting Needle
[mediaserf] therealjeb++
[cybaea] sedandawk
[holgate] sewing circles instead of guilds
[mediaserf] bell labs++
[jameshome] awk++
[tengi] O_RLY++
[therealjeb] new jersey--
[AKChris] sed++
[therealjeb] OTOH worse is better ++
[jameshome] hst++
[sexygirl153] therealjeb: http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=9b4155e4ff782eb8f77052c42c898b09.910357&vback=Studio
[segfault1010] seweing cirlces instead of guilds == ultima online
[tengi] new jersey++
[therealjeb] @sexygirl153: thanks
[O_RLY] s/popular science/make
[jgoldman] christopheralexander++
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[therealjeb] Everyone says C. Alexander is awesome, but I started reading "Notes on the Synthesis of Forms" and I wasn't diggin it.
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[jameshome] that's the wrong book to start with
[jameshome] start with 'A Pattern Language'
[jgoldman] agreed
[RemyDWD] A Pattern Language: http://www.amazon.com/Pattern-Language-Buildings-Construction-Environmental/dp/0195019199/
[cspurgeon_] Yes, I think he might have gone a bit around the bend with that.
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[therealjeb] Jevon?
[therealjeb] from firestoker?
[jgoldman] likely
[seanbonner] "one of the ways Kraftwerks"
[jameshome] APL is good even if you don't get his religion
[holgate] there's an online adaptation of A Pattern Language. Or was.
[davidcrow] yeah, that's who that was
[jameshome] it's terrible tho
[therealjeb] See, CANADIANS ARE ALL UP IN EVERYTHING
[jgoldman] the toronto crew have discovered the IRC :)
[davidcrow] we're sneaky
[jameshome] the online version
[AKChris] textile++
[davidcrow] textile++
[cybaea] Does textile have an API?
[therealjeb] This reminds me, WHy aren't hackers more into Looms?
[therealjeb] seriously?
[AKChris] real hackers tat
[cspurgeon_] "Notes..." reminds me of "A New Kind of Science"...I've got the explanation for EVERYTHING.
[sexygirl153] technoloomm++
[therealjeb] Looms seem like they are the most hacker friendly archaetech possible?
[cybaea] looms? dooms?
[davidcrow] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textile_(markup_language)
[therealjeb] jaquard looms etc.
[RemyDWD] therealjeb: They don't integrate with Twitter.
[gregbiggers] long threads--
[therealjeb] oh yeah duh.
[cspurgeon_] heh
[jameshome] hrm
[AKChris] Try Knittr
[jameshome] USB loom
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[seanbonner] Looms have no API
[cybaea] therealjeb++
[jgoldman] AKChris++
[gregbiggers] pesky wabbit crafter
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[tengi] what about the woof?
[cybaea] AKChris++
[holgate] http://downlode.org/etext/patterns/
[sexygirl153] shedding, picking, beating - an interesting weekend
[O_RLY] and then beck wove us all friendship bracelets
[mediaserf] sexygirl153++
[cybaea] Somebody registered it: http://knittr.com/
[cspurgeon_] Treddles *are* the loom API
[dpm] later looms did... like IBM punch card pattern things as I recall...
[AKChris] the debate about mulithreading really hurt the infant loom hacking clique
[O_RLY] shedding, picking, and beating - three things you shouldnt do in public
[sexygirl153] AKChris++
[RemyDWD] AKChris: Boo.
[therealjeb] yeah
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[dpm] AKChris: groan!
[davidcrow] can you compress the weave with Zipf?
[therealjeb] Jaquard Looms
[todbot] don't fear the weaver
[therealjeb] they are like the first API
[BigD] can you make felt on a loom?
[therealjeb] of anything
[therealjeb] jacquard?
[segfault1010] todbot++
[therealjeb] idk how to spell it.
[AKChris] hey, I'm no spider robinson
[tengi] AKChris++
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[cybaea] AKChris: please.....
[seanbonner] Didn't Dave Weiner invest twill?
[seanbonner] invent
[KevinMarks] Jaquard had punched cards
[O_RLY] now, I'd like to move on to traditional japanese rope bondage ...
[RemyDWD] seanbonner: That's why Userland's support is so thread-barren
[gregbiggers] seanbonner++
[cybaea] pac man cross stitching?
[stormville] dave weaver
[andy2u] did anybody go to the Global Nomad/ SLeep BOF last night?
[seanbonner] RemyDWD++
[therealjeb] man this is cool.
[jameshome] USB shibari?
[crowder] andy2u: not I, what was it re:?
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[AKChris] like at the tattoo parlor
[TomCoates_] Is it just me or are the seats here profoundly uncomfortable? My back is killing me
[O_RLY] a four-port hub
[cybaea] http://g42.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=PacmanCrossstitchHuge
[sexygirl153] why the 's' on lyon?
[AKChris] s/back/ass then yes
[seanbonner] how much silk can you connect to this hub before it overloads?
[andy2u] nodding with tomcoates
*cybaea thinks the seats are uncomfortable
[therealjeb] I wonder if you could write a slow-ass terminal driver for one of these looms.
[cspurgeon_] About to get to Jaccard
[mediaserf] conferencechairs--
*sexygirl153 agrees
[therealjeb] and run ncurses apps on it.
[RemyDWD] How many yarns can he spin before I conk out?
[therealjeb] or nethack
[cybaea] nethack++
[cybaea] ?karma nethack
[jibot] nethack has 3 points
[crowder] RemyDWD: I was just yawning and wondering something similar
[AKChris] oh the web we weave
[O_RLY] young boy - harnesses ...
[therealjeb] so we can replace him with TTL+solenoids.
[todbot] no armrests
[crowder] Is someone running a nethack server so we can all share bones files?
[crowder] ;)
[BigD] yeah, my posterior is sore
*cybaea graos at AKChris
[gregbiggers] silk weaving sounds like most of enterprise sw today
[sexygirl153] if this turns out to be an ad for ruby on rails i'll be angry
*cybaea groans at AKChris
[therealjeb] SilkWeaving sounds like a name of an enterprise software package.
[crowder] sexygirl153: *laugh*
[RemyDWD] Anyone know what's for lunch?
*AKChris remains unchagrined
[seanbonner] "...which brings me to AJAX"
[davidcrow] sexygirl13++
[KevinMarks] looks liek we predicted the punchline again
[crowder] sexygirl153: What if it's an ad for PHP? Will that be okay?
[segfault1010] we may go two talks in a row with no mention of magic
[BigD] whatever wasn't eaten yesterday
[davidcrow] sexygirl153++
[sexygirl153] crowder: hell no
[gregbiggers] puchcards are what you use to help you get your joke-telling timing just right
[KevinMarks] jacquard inspired babbage
[sexygirl153] seanbonner+++
[mediaserf] php++
[therealjeb] I hope when these were first inveted they were called "Automatic Drawboys"
[crowder] sexygirl153: Wow, you're picky
[mouthbeef] wireless drawboys 2.09
[jgoldman] tehrealjeb: iDrawboy, actually.
[AKChris] I totally dig the engineering on that old machinery...
[seanbonner] sexygirl153: how about if it's an add for C++
[AKChris] beautiful stuff
[therealjeb] me too
*crowder was mildly tuned out working, wtf is this guy even talking about?
[therealjeb] i also like that they decorated it.
[davidcrow] jgoldman: that's a subset of NAMBLA
[O_RLY] cue raymond scott soundtrack
[stormville] this is cool, it reminds me of george dyson's talk last year
[todbot] old school 3D printing
[RemyDWD] Loom porn
[davidcrow] seanbonner: it's actually an ad for IBM punch cards
[sexygirl153] seanbonner: that would work for me
[therealjeb] Thats a video of threadless' headquarters
[O_RLY] this is making me tingly
[segfault1010] when is someone going to tell him that glass isn't clear?
[cybaea] rhythm++
[mediaserf] the ability to destroy a planet is insignifigant next to the power of the loom
[sexygirl153] therealjeb++
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[seanbonner] punchcards are way more secure than RFID
[AKChris] you mean george dyson's talk last year that was word for word from the year before?
[O_RLY] therejob++
[RemyDWD] Did he say he was streaming that?
[therealjeb] oh man that vid was cool.
[wkearney_lap] yes, GO ON...
[seanbonner] and more reliable than SyQuest
[davidcrow] seanbonner: punchcards are RFID 2.0
[albertoescarlate] punchcards can cause paper cut
[gregbiggers] thread abstraction
[therealjeb] NIcholas Gesser. Great name for academia
[wkearney_lap] oy, who the fuck vetted these session selections?
*cybaea wants to loose his body as well
[todbot] no way, i can flickr your punchcard with a telephoto lens and steal ur data
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[O_RLY] cool
[gregbiggers] process of infomration losing its body. sounds like the first hints of lisp
[therealjeb] holy shit that bible RULES
[davidcrow] todbot++
[sexygirl153] it's all lists!
[RemyDWD] 4000 != 24000
[cspurgeon_] THAT was one impressive bit of weaving.
[RemyDWD] Oh I see
[therealjeb] Dude FLICKER SHOULD SO HAVE AN API THAT PUBLISHES TO THOSE
[wkearney_lap] jeebus, even if I was at a conference ABOUT weaving this would be boring as all get the fuck out.
[sexygirl153] it already does
[KevinMarks] surely ocne they had the cards they could make lots of them
[sexygirl153] &format=punchcard
[O_RLY] three days later, the first goatse was produced
[crowder] oooh. light at the end of the tunnel?
[therealjeb] hahahaa
[davidcrow] first you get the api, then you get the cards, then you get the power
[gregbiggers] typeface?
[jgoldman] ALL CAPS IS HIGHLY LEGIBLE
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[therealjeb] Bank Gothic?
[seanbonner] I thought Al Gore created the computer?
[KevinMarks] first person to program a jacquard loom with the mandelbrot set wins
[stormville] availing myself of the same beautiful invention
[davidcrow] I thought Al Gore created the loom?
[mediaserf] seanbonner++
[tengi] seanbonner: no, he only invented the Internet
[jrnoded] no gore created tubes
[RemyDWD] davidcrow: Dave Winer contests that fact.
[seanbonner] therealjeb: yes, bank gothic small caps
[BigD] i kinda like his font
[RemyDWD] And the fact that he wasn't here to speak on it only proves it.
[sexygirl153] BigD++
[BigD] bookman?
[mediaserf] RemyDWD++
[jgoldman] dave winer contests everyhing
[davidcrow] RemyDWD++
[gregbiggers] algore created the envelope that is used for passing the punchcards around
*crowder is way too busy trying to figure out where sexygirl153 sits, to program
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[cspurgeon_] The slides look a bit like sidebars from Tufte books.
[segfault1010] jeff jonas should have illustrated his slides
[sexygirl153] cspurgeon_++
[seanbonner] Can anyone confirm or deny that Yahoo! Pipes was originally called Yahoo! Tubes?
[crowder] heh, Jonas' slides were awesome
[therealjeb] yah the whole ecru/red combo
[davidcrow] I heard William Shatner is doing a one man play of this talk later today with puppets
[KevinMarks] RSS n'est pas une pipe
[BigD] tufte++
[O_RLY] couldn't we just read the wikipedia page for this?
[RemyDWD] davidcrow: Is it titled "Rub The Felt"?
[jameshome] are they piping diesel fumes into the room?
[jgoldman] davidcrow++
[seanbonner] davidcrow: I'd pay $5 to see that
[therealjeb] No way I've read this wikipedia page
[AKChris] The best book about babbage (and production, counterfeiting, cultural value, warhold and a lot more): http://tinyurl.com/2wzw2e
[crowder] seanbonner: I can deny it, but my denial is meaningless and empty
[davidcrow] it's actually Rub
[davidcrow] the
[RemyDWD] jameshome: We need that french fry smell from yesterday
[O_RLY] ha ha
[therealjeb] this is better
[davidcrow] Felt
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[KevinMarks] countdown to ada lovelace
[tengi] davidcrow++
[therealjeb] "As you probably know, Danny Hillis built this thing"
[cybaea] What is the 529'th digit of pi?
[sexygirl153] my ada senses are tingling
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[therealjeb] "It plays tic tac toe"
[BigD] 7
[stormville] ada to flickr
[Ewan_] cybaea, I don;t know, but I can square it really quickly
[jameshome] ding
[KevinMarks] bing!
[sexygirl153] BINGO!
[BigD] i'm and excellent driver
[therealjeb] sexygirl153++
[davidcrow] sexygirl153++
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[jibot] cspurgeon is Chris Spurgeon who lives in Los Angeles and blogs about the intersection of technology, culture, and art at http://www.spurgeonworld.com/blog/
[O_RLY] lonlygirl1
[davidcrow] good work Cal
[mediaserf] Ewan_++
[tengi] Ewan_: just remember to carry the one
[O_RLY] lady ada went on to invent the steam-powered webcam
[AKChris] automata are more interesting
[todbot] O_RLY++
[sexygirl153] turing in 4 slides?
[AKChris] at that time
[RemyDWD] Ooh, a cellphone!
[davidcrow] I think it forgot to carry the one
[seanbonner] punch cards = hanging chads
[BigD] ladyadacam
[KevinMarks] IBM first and votes counting
[jgoldman] seanbonner+
[jgoldman] +
[davidcrow] seanbonner++
[sexygirl153] KevinMarks++
[jameshome] lonelyada15
[jgoldman] KevinMarks++
[O_RLY] and so, jaquard begat babbage, who begat hollerith, who ...
[davidcrow] O_RLY++
[therealjeb] Clearly IBM is using the same branding firm to this day.
[cspurgeon] Man, I *so* want an IBM 405.
[jgoldman] not going any further? how will we know how it ends?!
[RemyDWD] Ooh, seanbonner for the win.
[seanbonner] Oh snap!
[sexygirl153] KevinMarks+++
[tengi] we don't use them because there's no [blink] card
[therealjeb] tengi++
[therealjeb] and no twitter integration
[davidcrow] not my house
[sexygirl153] tengi++
[davidascher] i have two in my house
[jgoldman] right after the marital aids
[seanbonner] Microsoft owns the trademark to the [blink] card
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[davidcrow] but it was the first machine in my crib
[O_RLY] jg++
[todbot] timhunkin++
[AKChris] the sewing machine, the iron-- those were the days
[crowder] This is the most stretched presentation I have seen during the whole conference
[BigD] great show
[KevinMarks] the first machine? tahts a very narrow definition of machine
[therealjeb] I am into it.
[davidcrow] jgoldman++
[O_RLY] gore skirt?
[todbot] "the secret life of machines" is awesome
[mikekuniavsky] http://www.timhunkin.com/
[crowder] Which speaker was talking about mandating a 90-second limit on presentations?
[sexygirl153] guess how i named my WoW guild? http://blinkguild.com/images/200703/20070315_helmets.png
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[O_RLY] most of the purchased by my aunt
[therealjeb] Are those nutrition facts?
[O_RLY] let the jokes begin
[cybaea] duct tape++
[RemyDWD] May contain nuts.
[O_RLY] mmmph, mmmph!
[BigD] i'd need a lot more duct tape
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[cybaea] It is 9
[O_RLY] cnc music factory
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[therealjeb] That RULES
[gregbiggers] sketchup++
[mediaserf] O_RLY++
[cspurgeon] Everybody Make Now!
[therealjeb] I want to build one of those.
[gregbiggers] O_RLY++
[cybaea] Ewan_: http://www.angio.net/pi/piquery
[tengi] cspurgeon++
[gregbiggers] cspurgeon++
[mediaserf] cspurgeon++
[RemyDWD] This is not a thing that makes me go "hmm", unless followed by "how much longer until lunch"
[therealjeb] Where do they keep this machine shop then?
[BigD] damn hippies
[wkearney_lap] yeah, room for a cnc machine but not a desk?
[jgoldman] RemyDWD++
[AKChris] the fumes must be making people high in here
[mediaserf] RemyDWD++
[albertoescarlate] bigD++
[crowder] wkearney_lap: Gotta make sacrifices
[stormville] ramble much?
[sexygirl153] wkearney_lap++
[O_RLY] mmm, diesel
[jgoldman] they couldn't fit the desk in because they had the CNC machine already.
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[RemyDWD] wkearney_lap: They had a Magic Cap. Who needs real desks?
[cybaea] Lunch in 7 minutes....
[therealjeb] I wdoner if you can put food in that thing
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[wkearney_lap] heh, at least my old 3/400 chassis doubled as one side of the desk...
[O_RLY] then the shop bot goes on a robot rampage ...
[davidcrow] can I make a PDP7 with it
[wkearney_lap] and a heater in the winter.
[crowder] None of this is either technical nor magical
[crowder] Nor "e"ical, really.
[gregbiggers] davidcrow++
[sexygirl153] 3rings++
[cspurgeon] Ooh, isometrics
[jameshome] the Three Rings office is so hott
[davidcrow] or ethical
[BigD] wkearney_lap++
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[seanbonner] Is that a finger puppet in your pocket?
[jameshome] these photos don't do it justice
[TomCoates_] just goes to show
[cybaea] finger puppies!!
[davidcrow] more with the puppets
[O_RLY] pull my puppet
[mediaserf] finger puppets?
[jgoldman] that sounds cheap
[gregbiggers] look! its dick cheney's hand!
[todbot] oi more with the puppets
[wkearney_lap] pfft, hooked up a pdp and make the electric meter scream... two days running and the old man chrewed my ass out for DOUBLING the electric bill that month.
[BigD] um
[jameshome] he's got his finger in the felt
[therealjeb] but its awesomical